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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking..........

Recall how the "Tee-Yay" purchased the abandoned Rockaway line from the "El-Eye-Double-Are", and rebuilt it for subway service?

Your's Truly has long wondered why that the "Tee-Yay" take over the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Beach line, and, as they did with the main section of the former LIRR line, and rebuild it into a new subway corridor.

After all, the line WAS built for high-platform, third-rail operation.

I've heard many proposals regarding the "rebirth" of this long-abandoned line, including a light-rail operation.

Hard to believe passenger service has now been gone for over 60 years, now.........

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting article, including some interesting "what remains today" views........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockaway_Beach_Branch

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting articles (including a haunting photo tour of the long-abandoned line).............

https://abandonednyc.com/2012/05/13/the-rockaway-beach-branch-queens-abandoned-railroad/

https://www.abandonedrails.com/rockaway-beach-branch/
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"What used to be" (1956); this photo is indeed a "classic", for obvious reasons! Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75675

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusting remains of a long-lost civilization.....waste, waste, waste........ Mad Sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?76779

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?88765

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?97591

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Ridge_Branch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Branch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IND_Rockaway_Line

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking.........

As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.

Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.

Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.

Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Construction work taking place at the site of the future "Eye-En-Dee" station at Howard Beach, 1955.

Note the "Kramden" at far left............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75689

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broad Channel station (circa 1955 and 1979)..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154646

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?95670

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?95662

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Thinking.........

As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.

Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.

Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.

Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....

"NYO"

["NYCTA"]

Alas, one thing that put paid to R-16's on the Rockaway line was an electricians' strike at Westinghouse, which meant that when the line opened (on time, for a change), it had to operate on reduced power with strictly "Arnines" until the strike was settled.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Arnines" on the Rockaway line (note "HH" designation, originally used for the Court Street shuttle, which closed in 1946)............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?23254

(courtesty: nyvsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across the following...........

https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/

(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)

["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"]
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted this link in the past elsewhere, but felt it was of related interest.........

https://forgotten-ny.com/2015/09/woodhaven-station-woodhaven/

Thinking now.........

1:

Imagine the LIRR building an all-new underground line in Queens, serving areas not convenient to the subways.

2:

Think of the IND pushing even deeper into Queens, and penetrating into Nassau.

Note the distinct "Eye-En-Dee" feel of this long-abandoned station; the remaining signs/tiles indeed echo the "Eye-En-Dee" of that era............

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodhaven_Junction_station

*(note comment on the underground station's resemblence to an IND facility; also, that the branch was supposed to be absorbed into the IND)
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2025 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Just came across the following...........

https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/

(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)

["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"]

Hmmm. Looks like the M line in this scheme would be a circular route then.
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