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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Just thinking..........
Recall how the "Tee-Yay" purchased the abandoned Rockaway line from the "El-Eye-Double-Are", and rebuilt it for subway service?
Your's Truly has long wondered why that the "Tee-Yay" take over the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Beach line, and, as they did with the main section of the former LIRR line, and rebuild it into a new subway corridor.
After all, the line WAS built for high-platform, third-rail operation.
I've heard many proposals regarding the "rebirth" of this long-abandoned line, including a light-rail operation.
Hard to believe passenger service has now been gone for over 60 years, now.........
"NYO"
["DASHING DAN"]
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:10 am Post subject: |
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"What used to be" (1956); this photo is indeed a "classic", for obvious reasons!
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75675
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking.........
As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.
Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.
Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.
Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Construction work taking place at the site of the future "Eye-En-Dee" station at Howard Beach, 1955.
Note the "Kramden" at far left............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75689
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Thinking.........
As the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" Rockaway Branch was "feeling the pinch" even back in the 1950s, I've long thought of why the "Tee-Yay" didn't make an offer to the LIRR and purchase the branch, at the same time they were were rebuilding what later became the IND's Rockaway line.
Recall the "Tee-Yay" purchasing the "R-16s" for the new service; think of them purchasing additional units to operate over the Rockaway Beach line, upgrading and modernizing the branch as well.
Had such a scenario taken place, I wonder what letter/number designation might have been given to the trains running over this new "Tee-Yay" subway route.
Recalling now the abandoned "Westchester" ROW up in "da Bronx", and transforming it into a rapid transit line, which, in 1957, would also see through servive to Manhattan and Brooklyn....
"NYO"
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Alas, one thing that put paid to R-16's on the Rockaway line was an electricians' strike at Westinghouse, which meant that when the line opened (on time, for a change), it had to operate on reduced power with strictly "Arnines" until the strike was settled. |
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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"Arnines" on the Rockaway line (note "HH" designation, originally used for the Court Street shuttle, which closed in 1946)............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?23254
(courtesty: nyvsubway.org)
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Just came across the following...........
https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/
(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)
["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"] |
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've posted this link in the past elsewhere, but felt it was of related interest.........
https://forgotten-ny.com/2015/09/woodhaven-station-woodhaven/
Thinking now.........
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Imagine the LIRR building an all-new underground line in Queens, serving areas not convenient to the subways.
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Think of the IND pushing even deeper into Queens, and penetrating into Nassau.
Note the distinct "Eye-En-Dee" feel of this long-abandoned station; the remaining signs/tiles indeed echo the "Eye-En-Dee" of that era............
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 10:36 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Just came across the following...........
https://thequeenslink.org/the-plan/
(be sure to read of the new subway stations, as well as mention of the local bus routes)
["TRAINS TO QUEENS-LAST TWO STAIRWAYS"] |
Hmmm. Looks like the M line in this scheme would be a circular route then. |
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