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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2026 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks for the info.

Does this route survive today (in any form) under the MTA?

Or, was it discontinued long ago?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2026 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bus_routes_in_the_Bronx

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2026 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo of "Jetson" #2 dates to 1974.............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153395

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)


2 questions

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Was this an ex-FACL or "Tee-Yay" bus?

2:

What capacity was this bus beunf used in, when this photo was taken?(Parks Department,perhaps?)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2026 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
This photo of "Jetson" #2 dates to 1974.............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153395

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)


2 questions

1:

Was this an ex-FACL or "Tee-Yay" bus?

2:

What capacity was this bus beunf used in, when this photo was taken?(Parks Department,perhaps?)

"NYO"

From what I could see, it was the "Tee-Yay" #2 from 1959. FACL's lot had side signs nearer to the entrance rather than towards the exit; on this, the side sign near the exit was a retroactive rebuild, "Tee-Yay" buses built up to 1963 did not have side signs originally.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2026 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks!

This was the info I was looking for.......


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2026 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this day in 1948..............

The last four TARS streetcar lines in "da Bronx" are replaced by "Soiface" buses.

The TARS routes replaced were:

"B"

"S"

"T"

"V"

"NYO"

*(The northern Bronx would continue to be served by Westchester County cars until 1952)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2026 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
On this day in 1948..............

The last four TARS streetcar lines in "da Bronx" are replaced by "Soiface" buses.

The TARS routes replaced were:

"B"

"S"

"T"

"V"

"NYO"

*(The northern Bronx would continue to be served by Westchester County cars until 1952)

["TARS"]

And they became, respectively:
- Bx-26 - Boston Road / Morris Park Avenue
- Bx-31 - Southern Boulevard
- Bx-40 - Tremont Avenue
- Bx-28 - Williamsbridge

A 1943 TARS map of "da Bronx" had several Bx- routes mentioned that, for a variety of reasons, were not "bustituted" in this form, and indeed, wouldn't be until the next decade in Yonkers and Westchester County.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2026 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks for the additional info.

So hard to believe that, today, it has been many, many years since a red-and-cream "Soiface" bus growked and snorthed along the busy streets of "da Bronx".

Exceept for those remaining long-time Bronx residents who are now well up in years, no one in "da Bronx" today would even have the slightest concept of "Soiface" once an integral part of the borough......... Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2026 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What might have been for "The Little Red Bus That Coyld"..............

Had the company not gone under, would they have retired their new GRUMMANS at the same time that the MTA sidelined theirs?

Would they eventually operated METRO "Bs"?

Or,, woiold they have embraced the RTS, as did the MTA?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2026 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
What might have been for "The Little Red Bus That Coyld"..............

Had the company not gone under, would they have retired their new GRUMMANS at the same time that the MTA sidelined theirs?

Would they eventually operated METRO "Bs"?

Or,, woiold they have embraced the RTS, as did the MTA?

"NYO"

["GRUMMAM"]

If they did purchase RTS's, they would have been narrower than the "Em-Tee-Yay's" own fleet. I noticed in a bio of the company in Motor Coach Age in 1968, their last Mack purchase was 1956, the Flxibles they purchased were in 1965, and after Jacob Greenberg's death, the family "toined" to "Gee-Em," starting with the TDH-4519's they ordered in 1967. Their proposed acquisition of "Borough Bombers" that the "Em-Tee-Yay" later assigned to Brooklyn were narrower (96") than the ones they themselves ordered (102").
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2026 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

As always, appreciate the detailed historical info.

I am now thinking of a group of "Dangerfields" purchased by the "See-Tee-Ay", back in the 60s; these buses were of the narrower sort, as they had to negotiate the tight clearances undereath a now-defunct "L" line.....

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