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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Thanks for the photo. Too think, something like that ran in my lifetime but I missed it. |
Cyberider:
The CNJ was famous for its divers end complex operations.
Passenger diesel-wise, the CNJ once operated the unique double-ended "Baby Face Baldwins", Traonmasters, "Babt" Trainmasters, and RS-3s.
The hulking GP-40s replaced tmassice "Trainmasters"in 1969.
Interestingly, the last group of heavyweight commuter coaches ordered by the CNJ arrived in 1930; these were arch roof cars, and were, at some time in the future, to be converted into MU cars had the CNJ decided to go ahead with planned electrification of its suburban lines.
Of course, this grand scjeme never came to pass.
Regarding longevity, some heavyweight CNJ coaches (railroad roof and arch roof) remained in NJT service until the early 1980s.........
"NYO"
["CENTRAL RAILROAD COMPANY OF NEW JERSEY"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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The CNJ was the only railroad to operate the unique, sleek, double-ended "Baby Face" Baldwins.
They had a short life on the CNJ, being replaced by the F-M "Trainmasters" in the late 1950s; one was slated for preservation, but, sadly, this never came to pass.
These big engines saw a good deal of service on NY&LB Shore trains.
I DO clearly recall (early 1960s) one unit, parked alongside the main entrance to the Jersey City terminal, being used as a stationary boiler to heat some of the adjacent shop buildings.
These smart-looking machines were easily the most distinctive diesels in New Jersey.......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142338 (at the bu,per post at Jersey City; this is how I remember the terminal, as a lad!)
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142314 (westbound train is passing the westernmost end of the Jersey City coach yards; the passenger terminal can just be made out in the background)
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't know CNJ had some of those Baldwins. I think there was an extra large version of it, too, but don't remember the designation. Always was impressed by them. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Didn't know CNJ had some of those Baldwins. I think there was an extra large version of it, too, but don't remember the designation. Always was impressed by them. |
Cyberider:
The CNJ also rostered a fleet of "Baby Face" Baldwins (single ended) that were freighters.
Though they were powerful haulers, in later years these huksters were prone to electrical fires and other mechanical issues.
All were off the roster prior to 1970.
The "Trainmasters" and "Baby Trainmasters" were not the only "FM"power that the CNJ operated; their tugboat fleet (down to only two boats by 1970) also had "FM"power plants.
The tugs were painted in the same handsome sea green (with gold "toothpaste" stripes") scheme as were the locomotives...........
Mom andI I often sat on the pier bulkhead at Jersey City and had "picnic lunch, in the diesel-scented shadows of the iidling tugboats................ |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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The most distinctive of the CNJ's steam ferry fleet was the "ELIZABETH".
Originally the "LAKEWOOD"*(with a wooden superstructure) she was severely damaged by fire while in drydock (early 1950s), and was rebuilt with a new steel superstructure.
Her whistle emitted a haunting, very hollow-sounding tone, quite different from her running mates on the Liberty Street crossing.
This photo at Liberty Street (nothing see here exists today) was taken between rush hours; during peak periods, both decks would be jammed with hundreds of commuters, heading for their trains at Jersey City.
Mom and I rode this handsome ferry any of a number of times when I was growing up; she was also the last steam-powered CNJ ferry still in service when serviceshut down in 1967................
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142344
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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In the mid-1950s, CNJ's ferry fleet was updated with short stacks and a sharp two-tone green paint scheme.
Here we see the "CRANFORD"in 1955.
The CNJ, interestingly, was the only railroad to equip its Hudson River ferry fleet with radar............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142334
(courtesy: nucsubway.org)
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Didn't know CNJ had some of those Baldwins. I think there was an extra large version of it, too, but don't remember the designation. Always was impressed by them. |
Was just watching a video on the PRR which featured a couple of those large double-ended Baldwins. They were referred to as "Centipedes." |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Cyberider wrote: | | Didn't know CNJ had some of those Baldwins. I think there was an extra large version of it, too, but don't remember the designation. Always was impressed by them. |
Was just watching a video on the PRR which featured a couple of those large double-ended Baldwins. They were referred to as "Centipedes." |
Cyberider:
Actually, the PRR Baldwins were single-ended; the CNJ's were the only double-ended units.
In 1957, the PRR replaced the last of the beefy K-4s on the NY&LB trains (out of Exchange Place, Hersey City), with the rogue-looking, angular "Sharks"
By the early/mid-60s, these engines werer eplacedwith E-8s.
For PRR's NY&LB trains coming from New York, diesel power was swapped at South Amboy, where the GG-1s would lay over in the "motor yard", befofe heading back to New Tork.......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:22 am Post subject: |
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PRR "Shark" action on the NY&LB....................
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142348
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Fittingly, "Sharks" were a most appropriate disel for the NY&LB; the shark attacks in "JAWS" were inspired (at least in partly by a series deadly shark attacks (circa-WW1) in the Matawan Creek, which was filled in after a massive trestle fire in 1946........
"NYO"
["THE BROKER"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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This timeless 1956 scene depicts a hard-workin ,barkin' K-4 heading for Bay Head Junction..........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142345
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:37 am Post subject: |
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"TWILIGHT" (1957)........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?94153
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
Thiis classic image was taken just prior to the last K-4s being retired; note, also, the GG-1, the MO-54, and, at far left, a CNJ "Seashore" train, out of Jersey City.....
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Must have been back-to-back Centipedes that I saw. The PRR certainly had a lot of interesting equipment. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Must have been back-to-back Centipedes that I saw. The PRR certainly had a lot of interesting equipment. |
Cyberider:
One of the most eye-catching and distinctive PRR engines were the Jules Vern-ish "DD-1s", the engines that made the "New York Extension"possible in 1910.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_DD1
Powerful,tough-looking beasys indeed, these side-rodded monsters laterwent to the LIRR ;the very last were not rewtired until 1970, hauling "wire trains" for the P-C, for work in the Hufson River tunnels.
Those side rods in motion HAD to be something to see!
Thankfully, one of these rare machines is today preserved......
"NYO"
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