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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Check these out (Myrtle Avenue photos, early 70's)............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154423 *("Dangerfield")

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154819 *(Old Look)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153201 *(Fishbowl)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154823 *(Old Look)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

......it would also be interesting to find out when the first "Dangerfields" ran on Myrtle Avenue, and, also, when the last ones were replaced......

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....also, I'm interested of what garage the Myrtle Avenue buses were then based (I know Old Looks could still be seen on Myrtle Avenue in 1971).......

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B54 was based out of Fresh Pond depot which, as of 1972, had 53 of the 1969-70 111CC-D5-1 "Dangerfields" (4100-4152, probably going back to 1970), extended by 1974 to 58 (up to 4157) and by then augmented by 20 of the newer order of 53102-6-1 (7135-7154). All other buses mentioned in the 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1974 rosters were Fishbowls, apparently the Old Looks that ran on the line were considered spares as none of them were mentioned.

Other routes assigned out of Fresh Pond in that time period were: B13, B20, B24, B38, B52, B53, B55, B57 and B58.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

As always, i greatly appreciate your historical input.

Fresh Pond was once a busy BMT/B&QT hub, with many yard tracks.

Streetcars were based there until about 1950 or so, and many different types of BMT equipment (subway and elevated) could be found there, back in the day.

I know the "EM-Tee-Yay" still stores trains there, but the equipment variety of years past is now, sadly, long-gone.

It's all NTT now.

Getting back to the buses, did any MACKS ever operate on Myrtle Avenue?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Getting back to the buses, did any MACKS ever operate on Myrtle Avenue?

If they did, I reckon it would have been pre-1966.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Getting back to the buses, did any MACKS ever operate on Myrtle Avenue?

If they did, I reckon it would have been pre-1966.


WB.:

Thanks; there are really not all that many photos of Old Looks on Myrtle Avenue either, (at nycsubway.org)

Likewise, on nycsubway.org, there are not all that many MACK photos either; though there are some Brooklyn photos, most MACK photos seem to be from "AVENUE B.".......

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..........interesting on how it was that a local "indy" company like "AVENUE B." had the distinction of operating the very last MACKS in the city.

IMHO, I don't think the "Em-Tee-Yay's " new two-tone blue of the 1970's would have looked at all well on the Old Looks, let alone the MACKS.......

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
..........interesting on how it was that a local "indy" company like "AVENUE B." had the distinction of operating the very last MACKS in the city.

IMHO, I don't think the "Em-Tee-Yay's " new two-tone blue of the 1970's would have looked at all well on the Old Looks, let alone the MACKS.......

"NYO"

I suppose, then, it was fortunate the last Old Looks and Macks were retired when they were, if nothing else than for the sake of the two-tone blue issue . . . riders were at least spared that on those classics. (Though towards the end of their service life, some of the 1960 FACL and ST Fishbowls, plus a few of the remaining "Tee-Yay" New Looks of the 1959-62 period, displayed the new "Em-Tee-Yay" paint scheme.)
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this day in 1955...........

The famed and iconic "Toid Aven-uh" El ceased running between 149th Street and Chatham Square (service yo City Hall and South Ferry had already been abandoned)

This was the very last El to operate in Manhattan.

The Bronx section woiuld continue to opeate until 1973,nearly 20 years moreu

Indeed, a long and colorful era in "Noo Yawk" transit history ended..... Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"END OF THE LINE" (1955).............. Crying or Very sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75740

(coirtesy:nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

42nd Street station of the "Toid Aven-uh" El in 1955; note "Soiface" buses and brand-new '55 Chevy taxis........... Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75749

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

149th Street, 1953.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?53585

(courtesy:nycsubway.org)

If only we could go back in time.......

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"VOICES UNHEEDED" (1955)

The placard in the left fpreground indeed says it all........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?58149

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of interesting history there. Too bad they couldn't have taken the NYCMTA to court to prevent the end of elevated service until the 2nd Ave. subway was built.
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