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Imagine if FACCo had a facility like this!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last "non-BINO" purchased by the "See-Tee-Yay".........

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/531213718526640748/

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they were latecomers to the "Are-Tee-Ess" party . . .
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
Sounds like they were latecomers to the "Are-Tee-Ess" party . . .


W.B.:

"Keeeeeer-ect" you are! Wink

The "See-Tee-Yay" did not see the RTS on the streets of "Shik-aga" until the Seies "8" arrived.

Interestingly enough, the CTA didn't see fit to specify the buses with air conditioning, and, as a result, all their series '08" buses were equipped with a small window in the rear cap.

Later, when the CTA retrofitted on select buses between 2000 and 2002, the windows were replaced by a standard RTS rear cap.

The first "08" deliveries to the CTA came in 1989............

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought.........

"En-Jay-Tee", like the "See-Tee-Yay" was indeed a "latecomer" to the RTS scene; it was not until the later 1990s that the first "NOVA" models began appearing.

Then, thankfully for Your's Truly, it was possible for the RTS fan to get to savor the ex-MTA "Torpedos" on ACADEMY's #22! Very Happy

Man, do I miss those days (AND those buses!) Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the silver side belt on the Old Look GM buses. Here is information that was provided to customers and found in the Classified Catalog Coach Parts and Accessories.

Ive seen TGH-3101 with the silver side belt.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

Cannot believe it is now nearly 40 years since I rode on an Old Look (Summer, 1985)

They truly were AMERICAN CLASSICS and I've loved them for nearly 70 years!

LOVED the suburbans with the silver strips on the dash, graduating in size; I always thought it looked like the bus was SMILING! (and I STILL do, nearly 70 years later!! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of double-deckers.......

Next year (2026) it will be EIGHTY YEARS since the last open-top "Blunderbuses" were retired from the FACCo fleet........

Only those who were kids or VERY young adults would today remember these iconic buses..........at least Mom had memories of rising them as a young girl, and related those wonderful experiences to me, later in life! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting..........

Double-deckers were obviously not at all commonplace out on the West Coast; "El-Yay" DID operate old-fashioned "Blunderbuses" into the 1940s.

I have seen photos of "open toppers" (not all that many) used to carry tourists about, lined up near the Ferry Building, in photos depicting the 1915 Exposition............

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where does the time get to.........

Cannot believe it is now just shy of 50 YEARS since the last Old Look "suboibans" vanished from my area ("O&B"/"PS"/"TNJ")

Man, I STILL miss 'em today......they were REAL buses, indeed........

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B:

I very seldom buy a paper these days (and The Post I'll only buy if there is an article I'm interested in); but, today, I DID buy a copy of the Post, as it had an article on this weekend's "Bus Fest".

The few photos were VERY poor quality, grainy and faded; interestingly, they stated that the closed-top FACCo, later model "Blunderbus" was retired in 1947; we all know here that the non-"QM" types were retired in 1946.

Seems this bus is known as "Betsy"; sure wish they'd christen the 1917 open-topper "Blunderbus"! Wink

The Museum's "Dangerfield" was described thusly:

"......an electric blue 1969 Flxible bus, which served the Bronx and staten Island due to its ability to traverse steep hills......"

This comment I HAD to agree with.....

".....now we have these 'accordian buses', which are not as charming as the double-deckers......."

DUH!!!!!!! Shocked

Anyway, just thought I'd share this...... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further.......

Again, the three photos in the aforementioned Post article were of exceedingly poor quality; also, there was no mention of the "Jackie Gleason" bus.....was it even there on display?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also......

"Betsy" (the closed-top "Blunderbus') was (according to today's New York Post article), after being sold in 1961, also had brief tenures in Nevada, Alaska, and Toronto, before finally returing to "Noo Yawk"................"

".......most of the Museum's bus collection is stored in a Bronx bus depot......" (former "Soiface"/"stoa" territory)......... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That whole show was just about to come to an end as I returned from my "Isle of Staten" excursion . . . same with the Feast of San Gennaro in Little Italy (I go there for the sweet sausages).

But the REAL "Jackie Gleason bus" - the one he and his Honeymooners cast posed inside - was scrapped long before that imposter bus (a 1948 40' "Bee O'Tee" bus repainted to resemble #2969 - and very badly at that) was put in as a stand-in. "NYE-Koh," from what I recall, had no silver in their paint scheme, it - like "FAK-oh" - had green and cream, albeit with their layout a bit different.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Too bad you arrived too late to really enjoy the buses. Sad

I wonder why, back in the day, WHY the ORIGINAL "Jackie Gleason bus" was not set aside for preservation?

You MIGHT have thought that there were at least a FEW "Tee-Yay" bus guys back then who were also "Honeymooners" fans, who would have said, "Hey, we GOTTA save THIS bus!"

Recall the 1960s photos our friend "MaBSTOA 15" posted here quite awhile back, of "The Great One" sporting his "Ralph Kramden" bus driver's uniform, and posing with a batwing Fishbow, downl in "My-Ami", with ads promoting "The Jackie Gleason Show"?

Man, I wish we had been there for that "photo shoot"! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Too bad you arrived too late to really enjoy the buses. Sad

I wonder why, back in the day, WHY the ORIGINAL "Jackie Gleason bus" was not set aside for preservation?

You MIGHT have thought that there were at least a FEW "Tee-Yay" bus guys back then who were also "Honeymooners" fans, who would have said, "Hey, we GOTTA save THIS bus!"

Recall the 1960s photos our friend "MaBSTOA 15" posted here quite awhile back, of "The Great One" sporting his "Ralph Kramden" bus driver's uniform, and posing with a batwing Fishbow, downl in "My-Ami", with ads promoting "The Jackie Gleason Show"?

Man, I wish we had been there for that "photo shoot"! Wink

"NYO"

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Yeah, I'd seen the picture. "Ve-e-e-e-ry interesting," as Arte Johnson's German soldier character in Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In would've said. But also, thanks to the DVD's of 27 of his variety shows, I'm now able to gauge (more or less) when a picture of Gleason was taken in the late '60's. He seemed considerably heavier in the 1966-67 season than near the tail end of the 1968-69 season, just as one example - and that was before his well-publicized weight loss.

The retirement of the Gleason bus came within the period that " 'stoa's" 480 A/C "batwing" Fishbowls first arrived on the property, scattered amongst their Manhattan (except for the sardine can 12th Street depot) and Bronx garages. Except there was never, that I know of, a picture of #2969 taken in actual active service (usually on the #18 - 86th Street Crosstown, now M86+SBS).
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