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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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W.B;
Appreciate the info.
Of course, by the time that Fishbowls began running along "Moitle", it had been many years (since 1944) since the El was cut back from Park Row and Sands Street.
Thinking now, of the buses "up in da Bronx" that, until it closed in 1973, ran underneath the spindly "Toid Aven-uh" El..........
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Gun Hill Road, 1962; though the veteran 1938 "WF" IRT cars would continue to soldier on along "da "Toid Aven-uh" El until 1969, the square-window "Soiface" Old Look seen here, would, not all that long after this nostalgic photo was snapped, be relegated to the scrap heap.......... 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?43102
(courtesy: nycsubway.,org)
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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On SubChat, there were pictures of "da Moit" over the years (and more specifically, the Bridge-Jay Street "toiminus" after being cut back from the Brooklyn Bridge), the area in the immediate years after "soivice" ended in October 1969, and as it looks today as part of the whole "MetroTech" complex. I had mentioned this bit of wisdom . . .
| Quote: | | Just shows that what is taken for granted in the "it'll always be there" sense could be wiped out in a New York minute, no trace whatsoever that it'd ever existed. |
The 1971 photo in that showed in the background, an "American" gas station; that later became Amoco, and is today part of BP.
And that quote came to my mind seeing those "discarded el" pics from "da Bronx" in the 1973-74 period. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Quick question:
At the time that "da Moit" was closed in 1969, what garage based the buses that then ran on "Moitle?
Thanks......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
Quick question:
At the time that "da Moit" was closed in 1969, what garage based the buses that then ran on "Moitle?
Thanks......
"NYO"
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The B-54 route that "soived" "Moitle" was based out of the Fresh Pond depot / garage in Queens. Thus whatever buses assigned to that depot would run on that route. As of "da Moit's" closure, those running on the B-54 would be amongst 151 "Jetsons" from the 1960 order and 69 "Bullets" from 1963 (all of which on the latter, just four years before, were among the lot of that set running in Manhattan and based out of 126th Street). |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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W.B:
As always, appreciate the info! 
What about "Kramdens" that ran on "Moitle Aven-uh"; I had posted links to a few pics of these old warriors on "Moit", taken in the early 1970s.......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B:
As always, appreciate the info!
What about "Kramdens" that ran on "Moitle Aven-uh"; I had posted links to a few pics of these old warriors on "Moit", taken in the early 1970s.......
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Sounds like, in the 1970-73 period, whatever "Kramdens" ran on B-54 were "resoives." |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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W.B.:
Appreciate the info, as always.
Did you notice, in that 1955 whose link I posted (showing a "Kramden" running beneath "da Moit", how "spindly" the El structure itself looked, especially in comparison to the elevated structures which carried steel subway cars?
Speaking of "spindly" , even though the old elevated structure carried steel subway trains, it, especially towards the end of its life, indeed had its own "rickety" look, looking as though the weight of the steel cars was almost too great a load to carry......
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Upper and lower case roller curtains (buses)............
You "loin" something new every day......
Just received an excellent book on East End London buses (late 1960s/mid-1980s); I gleaned some interesting roller curtain ("blinds" in Brit terminology) information, which I was not aware of previously.....
Blinds that used capitals only were referred to as "capital blinds".
Those which used lower case only were referred to as "lower blinds".
Blinds that used a combination of "capital blinds" and "lower blinds" were referred to as "mixed blinds".
The following I already knew.....
If a front/side sign only displayed the route number and the terminal point (with no intermediate points listed) they were referred to as "lazy blinds"......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:25 am Post subject: |
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So by that yardstick, roll signs for the "Em-Tee-Yay" (on both our buses and subways) after 1968 would be "mixed," eh? Good to know . . .
Of course, today's management of that agency is "mixed" all right - as in "mixed up." |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | So by that yardstick, roll signs for the "Em-Tee-Yay" (on both our buses and subways) after 1968 would be "mixed," eh? Good to know . . .
Of course, today's management of that agency is "mixed" all right - as in "mixed up." |
W.B.:
You can say that again, my friend!
There were also a number of "RTs" and "RMs" that utilized black-on-yellow "mixed" blinds (from photos I've seen, these signs DID show up quite well at night).......
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