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The Cruise Ship Companies: What Is The Future?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE PREVIOUS POST)

Came across this excellent, detailed page on the unfortunate Mexican tall ship that struck the Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday; a most impressive vessel, indeed........

https://www.discoverychepe.com.mx/en/articles/news/mexican-tall-ship-cuauhtemoc-history
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further.........

Saw on brief report on Eyewitness News (ABC-7) last evening at 11, that the stricken Mexican naval tall ship will be towed to the Brooklyn Navy Yard for repairs.

East River traffic will be halted/diverted; this will, of course, also affect the passenger ferries...........

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While on the subject of "tall ships"/"sailing ships"........

Interestingly enough, the NYS&W railroad utilized tug-assisted schooners to haul coal in New York harbor, into the 1920s..............

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If CUNARD ever operated ferries...... Wink

https://hhvferry.com/main.html
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruise line update......

Just learned that 'MSC CRUISE LINES" will no longer be operating the "MERAVIGLIA" (one of the world's largest ships) out of the Red Hook Terminal after this year.

Next year, the ship will be operating out of Miami on Caribbean cruises, and has no plans to relocate any of their other ships to Red Hook......

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSC_Meraviglia
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Cruise line update......

Just learned that 'MSC CRUISE LINES" will no longer be operating the "MERAVIGLIA" (one of the world's largest ships) out of the Red Hook Terminal after this year.

Next year, the ship will be operating out of Miami on Caribbean cruises, and has no plans to relocate any of their other ships to Red Hook......

"NYO"


This will be the second time that MSC has tried establishing a home port in New York in the last couple of decades. Apparently, they can't seem to make a lasting presence, due to high costs, and diminished demand.
Only NCL and RCI seem to be able to homeport, all year 'round....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Appreciate, as always the additional info; one can only imagine the tremendous amounts of money paid by the cruise ship companies (docking fees, tug assistance [if required], maintenance of the fleets, crew and staff salaries, etc.

IMHO, despite the HUGE amount of $$$$$$ taken in by the cruise ship companies, I think it is also important to remember just how tremendously expensive the cruise ship enterprises truly are; this should be quite obvious to everyone, just given the massive, monolithic size of these towering, impressive ships........

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an item that may be of interest...
After years of striving to have the 'world's largest' cruise ships, apparently they now see the virtue of building some relatively smaller ones, to serve more and more markets that shun the jumbo ships...

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/royal-caribbean-group-president-recognises-opportunity-to-build-smaller-ships
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Clicked on the link you provided, and only got a "HTTP 429 too many requests" message. Sad

You indeed brought up a VERY valid point; though today's cruise ships are light-years beyond monolithic in size (and most impressive!) I, myself, have long wondered if a day would come where the ships would become TOO huge.

Too, a vessel as huge as any typical, modern-day cruise ship requires MASSIVE cash outlays for fuel alone, not to mention the high cost of maintenance, etc.

It would seem, then, that, in this case BIGGER does NOT always mean BETTER.

Back in the day, recall in our much-younger days, when we marveled at the sheer massiveness of classic liners like the "QUEEN MARY" and the "UNITED STATES"?

Indeed, that was many, many light-years ago.....I guess the day would eventually arrive that cruise ships would simply become TOO LARGE...........

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Links of interest.......

https://cruisewithleo.com/biggest-cruise-ships/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cruise_ships

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also of interest............

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Ocean_Terminal_at_Bayonne

Back in the day, from the decks of the Staten Island Ferry, when the old "MOT" was still an active maritime facility, you could often catch glimpses of cruise ships docked there, undergoing repairs.

I was VERY fortunate, long ago, to even see the "INTREPID" docked there, undergoing renovations as she was being converted to a museum.....

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Talk about the ULTIMATE "mobile home"!!! Shocked Shocked

Can't do better than the views afforded from this magnificent floating "residence", that is, while it was still possible!! Very Happy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_The_World

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Also of interest............

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Ocean_Terminal_at_Bayonne

Back in the day, from the decks of the Staten Island Ferry, when the old "MOT" was still an active maritime facility, you could often catch glimpses of cruise ships docked there, undergoing repairs.

I was VERY fortunate, long ago, to even see the "INTREPID" docked there, undergoing renovations as she was being converted to a museum.....

"NYO"

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The MOT is now known to most as "Cape Liberty" to cruise lines and their passengers, but if you ever monitor the marine radio channel on either a scanner, or online over the internet, the "old school" Sandy Hook harbor pilots still call it by the MOT name when they announce their passage thru the harbor to other traffic.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Now THAT something I DID NOT know.......thanks for sharing this info!! Wink

In my extensive maritime toy collection, I have a particularly rare piece from the late 50s/early 60s; this is a tin litho pilot boat, lettered "NEW YORK PILOT BOAT".

There is a VERY quick glimpse of one in the 1956 "I LOVE LUCY" episode, "BON VOYAGE", heading out to the "CONSTITUTON"; looked like a diminutive tug! Wink

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