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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider:
VERY valid point.
Certainly, the riding public is NOT benefiting by having battery buses replacing trolleybuses.
The ONLY ones that benefit are those "empty suit fat cats" who make inane and asinine decisions, at the expense of both the transit patron and the taxpayer........
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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The entrance ramp/portal of the Cambridge bus tunnel was almost identical to that used by PSNJ's Cedar Street Subway in Newark; both "subways", over the decades, saw streetcars, trolleybuses, and motor buses.
The last MTA streetcars used the Cambridge tunnel in 1958.
In Newark, the last streetcars used the Cedar Street Subway in 1938; the last ASV's in 1948, and the last motor buses about 1967 (the latter I clearly recall from my long-ago youth!)
These nostalgic views are from Boston..........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?49751
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?49750
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?49754
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Here is an excellent, exhaustive, and most interesting page on trolleybuses, past, present, and future (note the "ancestor" of the trolleybus dates back to 1882!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus
There is also detailed, technical information here on operations, related infrastructure, wiring, etc.
The newest model trolleybuses indeed more resemble a giant mutate insect from a far-off galaxy.....they are
HIDEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note, also, the 1966 photo of the double-deck trolleybus in Reading, England; with the exception of the enclosed rear platform, this coach was virtually identical to those used in London from the later 1930s until 1962.
Give me a MARMON, ACF-BRILL, or a PULLMAN anyday!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Note the photo of the MBTA's "AN440LF"; this was the last type of trolleybus built for Boston, and still had many more years of solid service in them.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplan_USA
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1135 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:19 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: |
Give me a MARMON, ACF-BRILL, or a PULLMAN anyday!
"NYO"
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Or a St. Louis or a Twin. . . |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Cyberider:
AGREED!
SEPTA (aka "SEPTIC") operates some of the UGLIEST trolleybuses ever built; truly weird how a modern transit vehicles virtually always looks more like a giant mutated insect (or, at best, an oversized milk carton) than any sort of transit vehicle.
Give me one of the CLASSICS, anyday!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Further waste.........
In 1947, the B&QT (BoT) took delivery of a fleet of modern trolley buses, built by ST. LOUIS.
These coaches were quite modern for the time; they also boasted florescent lighting, the FIRST transit vehicles in New York to be so equipped.
These sleek coaches were barely 13 years old when all trolleybus operation in Brooklyn was converted to diesel bus in 1960.
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Oddly (and ironically) none were sold for further use "South of the Border")
Mos retired coaches simply sat in junkyards well into the 1960s, before finally being scrapped.
These electric coaches were only just well broken in when they were retired................truly a waste.....
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Cyberider

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link to the photos of the Brooklyn St. Louis trolley buses. A shame that buses with so much life left in them were retired prematurely. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider wrote: | Thanks for the link to the photos of the Brooklyn St. Louis trolley buses. A shame that buses with so much life left in them were retired prematurely. |
Cyberider:
You are welcome!
As a "publicity" thing, the NYCTA, instead of replacing the trolleybuses with the Old Looks (and/or MACKS) then serving the borough, they brought in part of the new fleet of Fishbowls purchased for Manhattan routes, the better to show the sharp contrast between the "old fashioned" trolleybuses and the new, flashy, diesel-powered Fishbowls.
Did you note the large dome light next to the destination sign?
These lights would flash to alert riders at the upcoming stop that the coach was full, and to take the one following.
Again, what I have long found odd is that these still almost-new trolleybuses were not sold for further service in Mexico or South America.
Sad, also, that not one of these electric coaches was saved for preservation.......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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On this day in 1959.........
The MTA (Boston) initiated trolley service on the former Boston & Albany's Highland Branch, using PCCs (the B&A had abandoned the line the previous year)
Today, this route (part of the Green Line) is known as "D-RIVERSIDE".
This new trolley line was highly patronized from Day One.
Interestingly, 1959 was also the year that the Kingston Trio's hit "THE MTA" ("Charlie Card"....."The Man Who Never Returned") debuted on the aiwaves.........
"NYO"
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