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Time to bid the MTA "farewell"?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE PREVIOUS POSTS/LINKS)

And, speaking of "stubways"........

Recall that the "Eye-En-Dee's Court Street station (today's NYCTM), had planned extensions been built, would have been a "through" station, instead of a "stub" terminal for the "HH" shuttle, which was closed in 1946.

Look at how long it took to take the Dyre Avenue shuttle, and tie it into the "Eye-Are-Tee" mainlines (something like more than 15 years)

It would seem that the biggest postwar extension/expansion would have been the "Eye-En-Dee" running out to the Rockaways, via the old "El-Eye-Double-Are" line:

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IND_Rockaway_Line

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also..............

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Avenue_lines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMT_Jamaica_Line

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the "Q" line.............

From what I have been reading, their are now consists of "R-46" and "R-68/68A "Brighton Belles" on the line, adding some needed rolling stock variety to the line.

This puzzled me, as I HAD thought that the "Cue" was now 100% "See-Bee-Tee-See", and thus prohibiting the use of older, non-NTT equipment on the line.................

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time indeed flies..........

To show you how long ago it has been since I last rode the "Gee", the last train I rode on was an "Arten" ("Thunderbird"), and there was still some incandescent lighting, further accentuating the aura of another era.

As far as the subways themselves, I have not ridden on them since the day Your's Truly retired way backin April, 2004 (then again, that was the last time I was even in "Noo Yawk")

Yep, it's been awhile, and so much has changed.............

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"See-Bee-Tee-See" on the "G"............

Given the fact that older, non-NTT equipment is now running on the "G", I am guessing that CBTC is not yet fully operational on this line?

Appreciate info...........

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
"See-Bee-Tee-See" on the "G"............

Given the fact that older, non-NTT equipment is now running on the "G", I am guessing that CBTC is not yet fully operational on this line?

Appreciate info...........

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Unless someone knocked some sense into the "Em-Tee-Yay" and told them flat-out, have old-style signalling as a backup.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Keeping the old block signals operational on ALL lines as backups SHOULD be a NO-BRAINER, BUT, then again, with today's uver-floundering "Em-tee-Yay", common sense seems to have pretty much taken a long sabbatical.......... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....for Your's Truly, it seems a little "exotic" to have the "Brighton Belles" (R-68s) running on the "Gee" line, as I have long since, first and foremost, always associated them with the Brighton line.

Hard to believe that these cars are now nearing their fourth decade in service............

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Brighton Belles" on the "Cue","Gee", and "En" ............ Wink ,

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?144621

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?42043

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?66736

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?126883

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?122532

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?142086

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?129489

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this day in 1977............

The very last of the formidable "built like a tank" prewar "Eye-En-Dee" cars made their final run on the "Bee-Em-Tee"; last train of these iconic and historic cars ran on the "J" line.

Job WELL DONE, faithful old friends!

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2164

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2167

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting........

The "Fordy-Sixes" (now the oldest cars on the rails), have a longer service record than the veteran "Arnines" they replaced, way back in the 1970s (IMHO, the "Arnines" could have easily made it into the early 1980s, as did the BSS cars did, down in Philly in Philly)...............

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*Ironic that, the "Arnines" were tested on BMT rails, and made their final runs on BMT rails, decades later........ Wink

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