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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Came across this interesting historical (TRAILWAYS) page.......

https://flashbackdallas.com/2020/09/06/labor-day-weekend-union-bus-depot-1952/

Note the TRAILWAYS ads; one also lists the connecting intercity lines at Dallas (one ad depicts an ACF-BRILL IC-41)............

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NYO--

Interesting depot shot from 1952. Judging from the photo demographics, it clearly was in the "Jim Crow" era.
Can you identify the bus seen thru the window? Could it be an early GM transit or perhaps an Aerocoach, judging from the windshield?


traildriver:

I COULD be wrong, but that bus glimpsed through the station window looks like it MIGHT be an "owl-eyed" AEROCOACH......at least, that's what I'm guessing here........

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Dallas............

I would guess that it's pretty safe to say that most "Big Red" enthusiasts cannot hear Dallas mentioned without thinking of TRAILWAYS, for obvious reasons! (Your's Truly included!) Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious..........

After GREYHOUND took over "Big Red" in the later 1980s, did "The Hound" continue to use the former TRAILWAYS facilities in Dallas? (garage/shops/yard/offices)

Does GREYHOUND continue to use the former TRAILWAYS facilities there?

Appreciate info..............

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a tattered, well-read copy of "MOTOR COACH AGE"............

"..........in June, 1930, SOUTHWESTERN took delivery of of five YELLOW Z-250s, as well as at least three WHITE 54-As; SWG used these new buses to to start two new through services. The Dallas-El Paso service was in direct competition with SOUTHLAND GREYHOUND, but did not handle local passengers. ........."

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further............

".......allocated just 35 of the 1,000 Silversides to be built in 1947, SWG put 5 ACF-BRILL IC-41s in service on the Dallas-Fort Worth-San Antonio- Corpus Christie route early that year......"

".......these ACF-BRILL IC-41s were followed by 10 more, all running between Houston, Dallas, and El Paso......."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also (from "MOTOR COACH AGE")..........

"......in January, 1932, SOUTHWESTERN abandoned its service west of Dallas, turning passengers over to SOUTHLAND instead........."

".......through St. Louis-Memphis-Dallas service continued to operate..........."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trivia................

In 1945, the CONTINENTAL BUS SYSTEM became the name of a new, large bus system, as the result of the merger of TRI-STATE TRAILWAYS and BOWEN TRAILWAYS.

TRI-STATE operated many routes, especially in Mississippi and Louisiana.

BOWEN'S routes, on the other hand, were mainly in Texas.

A number of air-conditioned IC-41s ran on these routes, beginning in 1947.

(source: "TRAILWAYS BUSES" (William A. Luke)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note:

In speaking of Dallas, I was reminded of a thread I had started on the "Over The Road Carriers" board, quite awhile ago, regarding the buses that were part of JFK's motorcade in Dallas, on that fateful day in November, 1963.

There are interesting links (note: some links no longer work) as well as interesting comments.

Check it out............. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1948 map for "CENTRAL TEXAS BUS LINES"..............

https://www.chicagorailfan.com/greyictb.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1948 map for "CENTRAL TEXAS BUS LINES"..............

www.chicagorailfan.com/greyictb.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another 1948 map, this one for the "TNM&O".............

www.chicagorailfan.com/greyitno.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note..........

Intercity bus maps from many decades ago (such as seen in the two previous links) indeed shows us just how far-flung so many of the long-defunct intercity companies once were; they also serve as sobering reminders of just how much has been lost..........

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a 1976 map depicting the intercity bus lines then operating in Texas..........

https://www.chicagorailfan.com/greyhrtx.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Note..........

Intercity bus maps from many decades ago (such as seen in the two previous links) indeed shows us just how far-flung so many of the long-defunct intercity companies once were; they also serve as sobering reminders of just how much has been lost..........

"NYO"

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Indeed!

I used to pour over my copies of the Russell's Guides, and the map supplement that came with it. One of my fun exercises, that also taught me to be a good ticket agent, was to see how far one could travel across the country without using either Greyhound or Trailways. Amazingly, at some time you could almost go coast to coast using strictly independent companies, except for a few small gaps where you would have to ride GL or TWS as a 'bridge'....

One of my favorite bus marketing slogans was painted on the sides of Mid Continent Coaches, that read: "We Go A Long Way To Make Friends"....
Mid Continent was owned by Robert Allen, who also owned Oklahoma Transportation Company, as well as MK&O Lines. You could ride their buses from St. Louis to Colorado and Texas, thanks to pools with other carrier's...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Indeed you were most fortunate to have actually been such an integral part of intercity buses (in many capacities!) over the years!

Keep on' keepin' on!

It was not until my family's 1973 "PARKER TOURS" trip to Canada (my FIRST trip aboard a "Buffalo!") that (thanks to a big newsstand near the old Allied Chemical Tower, that I came across a couple of new copies of a British bus enthusiast's magazine; had NO IDEA other guys also were into buses, until then! Shocked

And.......WHAT A SURPRISE when I came across "BUS WORLD" in the mid-1980s; BEST centerfold featured GREYHOUND's then-current historical collection of buses....man, they were BEAUTIFUL! Wink

Man, when I think of the classics still in service up in Canada, back in 1966 and in 1973........what great memories! Wink

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