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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:59 am Post subject: |
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(see previous postings)
This nostalgic photo (looking west) from 1964 comes right out of my memory!
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153650
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Here we have a representation of NHBL's diverse fleet (here, we have an Old Look, a MACK, and a WHITE (this company also rostered 798's)
Mom and I boarded the #1 for Union City too many times to count, through the 60's.
After these buses received the starting bell (there was also a starter's booth here) the buses of these lines (#1 to Nungessers, #5 to the PABT) would, in about 15 minutes, be passing right by our Union City apartment house (you see why Your's Truly got into buses at such an early age!)
One of the Art-Deco bus waiting shelters is also seen here; also visible (in the facade of the now-defunct "J.M. FIELDS") is the entrance to the H&M/PATH station across the boulevard; this involved walking under the street, via a partially open walkway (you could look down and see the H&M trains!) and then into the western end of the H&M concourse.
Memories, memories.............
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Here's an excellent collection of rare historic views of Journal Square, including many landmarks.
Note the one photo taken in 1922 (looking south), showing early jitney buses loading on the original bridge spanning the H&M and PRR tracks.
There are also rare photos (one with a train of "Black" cars!) showing the new viaduct being built in the late 1920's)
As you can see, JSQ was, for many years, the transportation and commercial hub of Hudson County.
Enjoy!
"NYO"
https://lynnhazan.com/jersey-city/neighborhoods/lets-explore-the-history-of-journal-square/ |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:41 am Post subject: |
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This colorful postcard (circa-1940's) shows the northernmost fringe of JSQ; the "main" area of the Square is just-out-of-sight to the south (you are looking north in this view)
In my time, the NHBL buses loaded on the right.
Note the buses here facing north and south.
The empty area on the west (left) side of this view (over the H&M/PRR tracks) would be, by the later 1950's, the site of the popular "J.M. FIELDS" department sore.
The bustling H&M station is out of sight here, to the east (right)
The towering steeple marks St. John The Baptist Catholic Church, long an area landmark...............
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/272890058657216586/
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:43 am Post subject: |
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By the 1960's, the two longest suburban runs out of Journal Square was DE CAMP's #22 (JSQ-Caldwell) and INTER-CITY's #97 (JSQ-PATERSON)
Back then, the #22 was served by both Old Looks and ACF-BRILL C-44's.
The #97 (by the 1970's, a BLUE & WHITE route) not only used C-44's on this line during the 1960's, but also, Old Looks and WHITES.
Mom and I were both VERY familiar with these lines, back in my long-lost childhood days; the #97,in fact, passed right by our old Union City apartment building, and shared the stop on our corner with NHBL's #1 and #5.
Both the #22 and the #97 (like the buses that served them) are now gone many, many years..........
"NYO"
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1135 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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NYO,
I've seen. and admired, many photos of Journal Square. Looks like "Bus Paradise" in the old days. Were there ever any streetcars there? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider wrote: | NYO,
I've seen. and admired, many photos of Journal Square. Looks like "Bus Paradise" in the old days. Were there ever any streetcars there? |
Cyberider:
Indeed....a bus-watcher's PARADISE, for sure!
Until the late 1940s, streetcars looped through the off-street PS bus terminal on Sip Avenue, just off the Square; portions of the rails were still to be seen in the early 1990s!
The "Square" itself was all-bus; both local and long-distance buses lined up here, over the course of several decades, from the late 1920s through 1974, when the new PATH transportation Center opened, not only removing the buses from the Square, but also, effectively killing off most of the retail business in the once-bustling commercial district.
ASVs also looped through the Sip Avenue Terminal until 1947..........
"NYO" |
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1135 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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NYO:
You sure managed to live in the right place at the right time! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider wrote: | NYO:
You sure managed to live in the right place at the right time! |
Cyberider:
You can say THAT again, my friend!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a photo of a PSNJ 3200-series "Compromise" roof car (these cars, which once numbered in the hundreds) dated to WW1) on Bergen Avenue in the 1940s; look closely and you'll see an elderly front-engined "BERGEN AVENUE" bus heading for JSQ.
The streetcar is operating on the "SOUTH KEARNY" line, serving the now long-defunct "WESTERN ELECTRIC" plant (this line started in 1942, to serve war workers); it also utilized both sections of abandoned lines as well as new ROW................
"NYO"
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116282
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29741 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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This photo was taken just days before the last HUDSON Division streetcars were replaced by buses in 1949; note the PS Old Look turning into the Sip Avenue terminal (another bus can be seen in the distance)
GREYHOUND also had a "storefront" station on Sip Avenue, into the 1970s.
Many of the businesses seen here were still intact through the 1960s..............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116278
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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Cyberider

Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1135 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:43 am Post subject: |
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NYO,
Thanks for the additional photos. An amazing place that I long wondered how it got to be what it was. |
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