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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:55 pm Post subject:

Broadway & 216th Street, 1972.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155741

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

As was commonplace in so many American cities after streetcars had been replaced by buses, the old carbarns became bus garages; the garage (former carbarn) seen here was once "home base" for TARS streetcars.............

"NYO"

["TARS"]

Quoting myself here................ Wink

Just curious; what "stoa" routes were based out of the old TARS carbarn, see in the 1972 photo I posted yesterday evening?

Also, when did the MTA close it? (I would guess it was demolished many years ago....... Sad

"NYO"

["MaBSTOA"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:05 am Post subject:

Here have Fishbowl #8007 enjoying a brief (and well-deserved) respite between daily chores at the Castleton garage in 1978; note also the old-style light fixtures still in use, as well as the old two-aspect "signal".

Too, note that #8007's batwings are obviously being serviced........

"NYO"

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154663

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["M"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:06 pm Post subject:

"Foither".......

As I had mentioned earlier, am curious at to when the "Em-Tee-Yay" closed the old garage up in "da Bronx", which had been TARS Kingsbridge car house (see photo I posted); what replaced this facility; it indeed was a landmark that should still be standing today.

What "Soiface"/"stoa" routes were based out of this former carhouse?

Appreciate info.....

'NYO"

["RIDE THE SURFACE WAY"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:35 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:34 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

Greatly appreciate the info; I had no idea that there were that many routes based out of this garage.

The now-demolished (within the past two years) PSNJ garage in Union City (my old hometown) was NEVER referred to as a "bus garage" by locals; it was ALWAYS "the carbarns", even though the last streetcars departed in 1949.

From my memory, these routes were based there........

#16- EXCHANGE PLACE

#17-HUDSON PL. (HOBOKEN)

#21 WEST NEW YORK

#19-26 UNION CITY

#44-BERGENLINE

#44-PARK AVENUE

#124 (JSQ-HACKENSACK)

#200 PARK-RIDE"

The last two streetcar lines that operated out of this hugefacility were the "SUMMIT" and "UNION CITY" lines; several other car lines were based here through late 1938...............

"NYO"

["17 SUMMIT"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:41 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:51 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

In all my years of researching "Pee-Es" history, I've only heard the terms "car barn", "car house", or "garage"; I've never heard (or read) of any reference to a PSNJ facility as a "depot".

You mentioned "Jetsons"; though Your's Trulty was quite young at the time, the earliest "Jetsons" I recall were those used on the "#44" routes; by the later 1960s, only the two lines that ran on Summit Avenue (just up the block from us) were still running "Shermans" (4509s); all other lines out of the Union City "carbarns", by that time, were using Fishbowls ("Jetsons" and "Bullets").......

"NYO"

["44 BERGENLINE"]

FifthAvenueCoachLines · Age: 62 Joined: 29 Aug 2022 Posts: 46

Coliseum yard 1960's...

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:38 am Post subject:

REAL BUSES and CLASSIC autos.......NOW we're cookin'!! Wink

GREAT PHOTO......thanks for sharing! Very Happy

"NYO"

["OA"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:49 am Post subject:

At the time that pic was taken, here's what routes were assigned to Coliseum . . .

- Bx-3 - Prospect Avenue
- Bx-5, Bx-5A - Bruckner Boulevard
- Bx-6, Bx-6A, Bx-6B, Bx-6C (the last-numbered did not show that letter) - Throggs Neck
- Bx-7 - Boston Road
- Bx-8 - Williamsbridge Road
- Bx-9 - Eastchester Road
- Bx-11 - 170th Street Crosstown
- Bx-12, Bx-12A, Bx-12B - Fordham-City Island (extended to 207th Street in 1969)
- Bx-13 - Castle Hill Avenue
- Bx-14, Bx-14A - Edenwald Avenue
- Bx-15, Bx-15A, Bx-15B - Gun Hill Road
- Bx-16 - Webster Avenue
- Bx-17 - Allerton Avenue
- Bx-18 - Macombs Road
- Bx-22, Bx-22A - Country Club-Spencer Estates
- Bx-23 - Crosby-Layton
- Bx-36 - 180th Street Crosstown
- Bx-49 - Highbridge
(to 1964: Bx-50 - Freedomland)

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:08 am Post subject:

W.B:

THANK YOU for taking the time to list the routes that were once based out of this depot; truthfully, there were more routes assigned there than I previously though!

HAD to be a VERY interesting place to "bus watch" for sure, especially when the venerable "Kramdens" were still on the roster! Wink

"NYO"

["OA"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:08 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:14 pm Post subject:

WB.:

Can't wait for "da scoop" on West Farms...... Wink

"NYO"

["RIDE THE SURFACE WAY"]

["OA"]

FifthAvenueCoachLines · Age: 62 Joined: 29 Aug 2022 Posts: 46

132nd Street yard...

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:56 pm Post subject:

While I have my notes with me, here, in the late 1960's, was what bus routes were stationed at West Farms:

- Bx-21 - Pelham Bay Park
- Bx-25 - Morris-Jerome
- Bx-26 - Boston Road
- Bx-27 - Clason Point
- Bx-28 - Williamsbridge
- Bx-29 - Willis Avenue
- Bx-31 - Southern Boulevard
- Bx-32 - St. Ann's Avenue
- Bx-33 - 138th Street Crosstown
- Bx-40 - Tremont Avenue
- Bx-42 - Westchester Avenue

In sum, it appears West Farms had the least bus routes, Coliseum the most, and Kingsbridge down the middle.