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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 29761 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Here we have the great-great grandfather of the 1964 Fair's AMF monorail.
This historic German system, opened in 1900, was indeed a magnificent marvel of tomorrow when it opened.
This page is quite "tech" informative, and also features many historical and modern photos.
Under the "TECHNOLOGY" heading, note that this system utilized block signalling until 2019.
Today's signalling is of the "ECTS" system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Schwebebahn
And here is a beautifully preserved historic coach.........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?Kaiserwagen |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4249 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:56 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Here we have the great-great grandfather of the 1964 Fair's AMF monorail.
This historic German system, opened in 1900, was indeed a magnificent marvel of tomorrow when it opened.
This page is quite "tech" informative, and also features many historical and modern photos.
Under the "TECHNOLOGY" heading, note that this system utilized block signalling until 2019.
Today's signalling is of the "ECTS" system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Schwebebahn
And here is a beautifully preserved historic coach.........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?Kaiserwagen |
"ECTS." Did the "Em-Tee-Yay," in trying to "modernize" the subways, study that before plunging head-first into "See-Bee-Tee-See"? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:54 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Yeah, ya gotta wonder on that one.
Take notice that they didn't replace block signals until nearly 120 years later (There's a connection here, surely, with the MTA and its passion for replacing block signals with "See-Bee-Tee-See").................
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:59 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
While on the subject, can we forget the ungainly "monorail" that once ran up in City Island, well over 100 years ago?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelham_Park_and_City_Island_Railway
(note that a leased FACCo bus once provided substitute "soivice" for a period)........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monorail
QUITE fascinating, to say the least; amazing how far back the concept of the monorail goes back...........
Note historical photos from Germany and Russia (also, note section on "SWITCHING")............
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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And now, a brief "woid" from our sponsor:
"You can be SURE if it's a WESTINGHOUSE"!"
(the WESTINGHOUSE "Skybus" indeed would have made for a great attraction at the '64 Fair, and would have fit right in!)
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4249 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:26 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | And now, a brief "woid" from our sponsor:
"You can be SURE if it's a WESTINGHOUSE"!"
(the WESTINGHOUSE "Skybus" indeed would have made for a great attraction at the '64 Fair, and would have fit right in!)
"NYO"
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Speaking of Westinghouse . . . its "Group W" station in "Noo Yawk," 1010 WINS, became "all news, all the time" just in time for the second and final season of the 1964-65 "Woild's Fair." (It would take the '65 blackout, however, to put WINS firmly on the map, the 1966 transit strike to cinch it, and the 1967 Six-Day War to further reinforce it - and lead to the now late, lamented WCBS going "Newsradio.") |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:21 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Great trivia!
What I will ALWAYS greatly miss (WCBS and 1010 WINS) was the continual clattering of the teletypes in the background; back in the day, I could ver get enough of that timeless "big city news station" sound!
Alas, WCBS News Radio is now history, and 1010 WINS no longer provides appropriate background "music".......
"NYO"
['1010 WINS"] |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4249 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:59 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
Great trivia!
What I will ALWAYS greatly miss (WCBS and 1010 WINS) was the continual clattering of the teletypes in the background; back in the day, I could ver get enough of that timeless "big city news station" sound!
Alas, WCBS News Radio is now history, and 1010 WINS no longer provides appropriate background "music".......
"NYO"
['1010 WINS"] |
WCBS's teletype sound was homemade, recorded in 1972 in their teletype room on the 16th floor of Black Rock, encased in glass with about half a dozen such machines clacking away; from the sounds of it, it looks like the mic was placed next to a section where Model 28's were preponderant. (From seeing YouTube videos, there is a certain difference in sound elicited between the older "workhorse" Model 15 and the later Model 28.) It sounded clean, crisp, precise, elegant and classy - perfectly befitting their Paley-era reputation as the "Tiffany Network." The sound, every few years, was put on 10-minute carts to play over and over again until it was finally canned in 1986.
WINS, meanwhile, had a teletype sound, in their years at 90 Park Avenue, which sounded a bit muffled and muddy in comparison. About the time they moved in 1986 to more "state of the art" studios at 888 Seventh Avenue, they started using a loop edited in different ways from a section of a track from Elektra's "Authentic Sound Effects" series, called "Teletypes." It was originally on Volume 2 (EKS-7252) - the same album that also contained the cash register sound that opened Pink Floyd's "Money" from their The Dark Side Of The Moon album. On YouTube, the track is misnamed "Linotypes," thus necessitating its division here:
https://youtu.be/fRb9rorv71c?t=0m52s
It was used by the station up to September 2020.
The 1010 WINS sound was spoofed in that film I was in, Lefty-Right. Here is a page created as a promo tie-in to the film (a fictitious all-news radio station whose views on how to bolster their coverage is twisted to say the least), with two "airchecks" created for it:
http://www.non-linearproductions.com/1720am.html
Because we had no budget to hire any of the WINS "regulars," let alone use their studios, Yours Truly did all but one of the voices, a la Mel Blanc in many a Warner Bros. cartoon. I also ended up using the exact same teletype SFX WINS used. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:24 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
GREAT trivia!!!!!
LOVE this stuff!!!!
"ELEKTRA" sound effects records?
Ohhh, man, did I ever have FUN with those albums, back in the day!!
I CLEARLY recall subway and bus sounds (one bit with a fire truck passing by, and had what HAD to have been a "Patton" pulling away from a stop, afterwards!)
Recall one sequence of a ferry docking (with cables and pulleys whining creaking, chains clanking, etc......probably was recorded on a SI boat!
Yeah, I REALLY enkoyed those "Elektra" albums!
"NYO"
["WATCH THE GATES!"]
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4249 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
GREAT trivia!!!!!
LOVE this stuff!!!!
"ELEKTRA" sound effects records?
Ohhh, man, did I ever have FUN with those albums, back in the day!!
I CLEARKY recall subway and bus sounds (one bit with a fire truck passing by, and had what HAD to have been a "Patton" pulling away from a stop, afterwards!)
Recall one sequence of a ferry docking (with cables and pulleys whining creaking, chains clanking, etc......probably was recorded on a SI boat!
Yeah, I REALLY enkoyed those "Elektra" albums!
"NYO"
["WATCH THE GATES!"] |
The irony in WINS using that teletype sound? It was recorded in the Daily News building - back when that paper touted itself as "New York's Picture Newspaper" and boasted "More Than Twice the Circulation of Any Other Paper in America." Even more ironic, an '80's commercial for the New York Post which featured Bobby Short used that Daily News-recorded teletype SFX.
Here are the "airchecks" of the fictitious "1720" station (about which one person on a board relating to "Noo Yawk's" broadcasting history said, "Love that Group W font"):
http://www.non-linearproductions.com/1720am-1.mp3
http://www.non-linearproductions.com/1720am-2.mp3
Again, you could pretty much tell which station (and its "sound") was satirized in those. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Thanks for the links (will enjoy these later on!)
Also, the additional "nooze" trivia!
How well I recall the old "Night Owl" edition of the "Nooze"; even after I started working in "Noo Yawk", I often recall driving with my older brother to a big all-night newsstand in Union City (my old hometown!) to pick up a few copies of the "Night Owl".
When I was "woikin' " downtown, I always brought home a copy of the "Nooze" and the "Joisey" Journal, before either boarding the "Eye-Are-Tee" or "the tubes" for home......man, it's all so long ago now...............
"NYO"
["ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO PRINT"] |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4249 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
Thanks for the links (will enjoy these later on!)
Also, the additional "nooze" trivia!
How well I recall the old "Night Owl" edition of the "Nooze"; even after I started working in "Noo Yawk", I often recall driving with my older brother to a big all-night newsstand in Union City (my old hometown!) to pick up a few copies of the "Night Owl".
When I was "woikin' " downtown, I always brought home a copy of the "Nooze" and the "Joisey" Journal, before either boarding the "Eye-Are-Tee" or "the tubes" for home......man, it's all so long ago now...............
"NYO"
["ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO PRINT"] |
Yep, when "nooze" was "nooze" and not TMZ on steroids. When the type used for newspaper layout was hot metal Linotype, Intertype or Ludlow and not from one's computer.
["In early 2000, 1720 AM made a bold step to shore up its presence in the market by acquiring five used Teletype machines . . . for the purpose of providing that annoying 'clack-clack-clack' sound which is heard over our anchors"] |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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W.B;
Recall, also, waaay back, when, on Sundays, we were treated to what we called the "color section"?
Too, remember back in the 60s, the "NEW YORK THEN AND NOW" feature on Sundays, showing two "then and now" photos from somewhere in the city, in the "Daily News"?
I distinctly recall one "feature" showing the foot of W. 42nd Street, with the older photo showing the West Shore ferry terminal from the river, with one of the ferryboats in one of the two slips.
While we're on the "bygone news media" topic, recall, also, the intro to the "NEWS FLASH" skits on "Sesame Street" back in the 1970s, with "news items" covered by a trench-coated and fedora-d Kermit The Frog?
"We take you now to Kermit the Frog for a late-breaking news story!" (recall, also, the classic "newsroom" intro music?)
"Hi-ho, this is Kermit the Frog for Sesame Street News".........."
Yeah, it's been a looooong time, now, for sure..........
"NYO" |
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