BusTalk

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Check out these two nostalgic "snaps" of a "Soiface" 4507 from 1955's "MARTY" (click on the smaller photo for a glimpse of the circular "BUS STOP" sign!

Yep, this was "da Bronx", many, many eons ago....................

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_199639-GM-TDH-4507-1949.html

["RIDE THE SURFACE WAY"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

I think I also "hoid" of the "lollipop" moniker, quite awhile back.

Interestingly, in London many eons ago, such "lollipop" signs were known as "dollies", and were used only to establish a new bus stop..............

"NYO"

["BUS STOP-NO PARKING"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Speaking of long-ago "BUS STOP" signs..........

Beginning in the late 1930s, "Pee-Es" began using circular signs mounted on line poles (or lamp posts) featuring a black-on-white rendition of an ASV (there were actually two versions of this sign)

The sign read: "BUS STATION"; if streetcars also used this stop, the sign would then read: "BUS or CAR STATION".

These distinctive signs held out for decades; by the 50s, a newer version (now featuring an Old Look) came out, but still very reminisent of the originals.

The very last in my area did not disappear until the early 1990s (I have both an original and a replica displayed today!)

"NYO"

["29 NEWARK"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

A quick question, while on the subject.............

When did the "Tee-Yay"/"stoa" remove the last of the classic FACCo-era "arrow through a circle" signs, denoting a bus stop?

I'm guessing early 1960's?

Interestingly, I cannot even begin to think of just how many classic animated cartoons I have watched over the years (as well as "classic"-era comic strips), where the type of bus stop sign I just mentioned were used..........

"NYO"

["BUS STOP"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Thanks for the info.

I have one of those BIG Fishbowl "BUS STOP" signs; a co-worker (who then lived on Staten Island) got it for me from an "Em-Tee-Yay" guy who was taking it down to put up a new sign (this was about 1984), where my friend always waited for his express bus to Lower Manhattan.

Needless to say, I MORE than HIGHLY prize this classic sign!

"NYO"

["NYCTA"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Fishbowl/"Dangerfield" twilight........

Curious as to, in the last years of the "Em-Tee-Yay's" operating these buses, I would assume that parts for them were becoming more difficult to obtain.

Was the "Em-Tee-Yay", by this time, using any "basket cases" as parts donors for the buses that were still serviceable, to keep them in service as long as possible?

Just wondering.....

"NYO"

["OA"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Recall the numerous the circa-1970 photos whose links I posted here awhile back, showing the OOS "Kramdens" and Fishbowls awaiting their fates, parked between the "Bee-Em-Tee" ramps at Fresh Pond Road; surely, at least some of these condemned buses also served as "donors".........

"NYo"

["NYCTA"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Wondering if any of these battered "stoa" veterans, seen here in "early retirement", were used as "donors", for the then-dwindling fleet of "Kramdens"..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153835

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153790

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["Manhattan & Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Possible "donor"?

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153794

(courtesy: nycsubway.org]

["stoa"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Speaking of retired "Kramdens" being used as "donors", check out this rare photo from 1968 of a "Lo-V" fan trip on the "Bee-Em-Tee's" Culver line; note the multitude of retired "Kramdens" on the left, silently awaiting their ultimate fate........

Note also the row of old "Bee-Are-Tee" line poles, as well as what looks to be a battered ACF-BRILL "IC-41"..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151333

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Any info on what facility was depicted in the photo whose link I posted in the previous response?

Also, what series of "Kramdens" those OOS buses might represent?

"NYO"

["GMC"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

By the time that photo was taken at "AVENUE X" back in 1968, the formidable "Pattons" were indeed just about history, and, though the last "Kramden" would not make its final run until several years later, it was already clear that time was running out for what was (IMHO) one of the most iconic buses to operate in "Noo Yawk" (or other city, for that matter)

In just two more years (1970) the last "Kramdens" would be purchased from the "stoa" fleet; indeed, an era was indeed quickly drawing to a close.

Those "stoa" Old Looks were retired FAR too early, and easily could have been kept in "soivice" for several more years......

"NYO"

["Manhattan & Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority"]