BusTalk

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Heritage......

www.cablecarmuseum.org/heritage.html

["SIGNAL FOR CABLE CARS ONLY"]

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Information on the 8 original cable car companies...........

www.cablecarmuseum.org/companies.html

["MARKET STREET CABLE RAILWAY"]

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Here are the two types of cars operating at present.........

www.cablecarmuseum.org/cablecars.html

["CAL CABLE"]

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Here's a photo gallery with a number of rare historical photos of the different types of cars operated since the late 1800s...........

www.cablecarmuseum.org/gallery/photogallery-1.html

["OMNIBUS CABLE CO."]

[Cyberider]

NYO:

Thanks for your message directing me here. Other than several books in my railway/bus library, I've had little actual experience in SF. My family drove through SF in 1966 while on a camping trip up the West Coast. In 1989, my late wife and I spent a couple of days there on my way to a business meeting in Turlock, CA. I don't even remember whether we even rode the cable cars but we did get up close and take some photos. My main interest at the time was seeing the PCC cars which were OOS but were visible in one of the yards and I got some photos of them. Rode the not very exciting Boeing cars around since that was the best we could do. Also rode the AMC electric buses which replaced the Twins, M-H's, etc. So, was too late for the interesting equipment and too early for the F-line and I've never been back and never will now. Anyway, SF had a very interesting railway and bus history and I enjoy perusing the books I have from time to time which I've had for decades.

As always, thanks for keeping the interest up here!

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Cyberider:

You are, again, quite welcome!

I've always had a strong interest in cable cars, and have a number of cable car books in my transit library, as well as many toys and models.

San Francisco, pre-BART, once had an extensive electric commuter train network that once connected with ferryboats on the Oakland side (at several locations, as well as at Sausalito)

After 1939, these trains (with the exception of the NWP trains, which quit running in 1941, along with their connecting ferryboats at Sausalito) began operating over the lower level of the Bay Bridge; by 1941, the "Red Trains" of the SP were abandoned (as were interurban trains of the SN), and the KEY SYSTEM's orange trains now had the new Transbay Terminal (now gone) all to itself until 1958, when the trains were replaced by buses.

How odd, that electric rapid transit came back a little more than a decade, when the first section of BART opened; how sad the entire Key System was destroyed.......indeed, BART could have used at least some of the old ROW........

"NYO"

["MANOR LOCAL"]

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Cyberider:

For more info (as well as photos) scroll down this page ("OTHER MODES" board) to my topic: "BART: 'THE KEY' REBORN".

There's a lot of interesting photos/links there that I think you will enjoy........

"NYO"

["Bay Area Rapid Transit"]

[Cyberider]

Thanks, NYO. Will do.

I"ve got books on the MSRy, Muni, Key, SP, and Sacramento Northern plus a few others in the surrounding areas. Fascinating! All I can say is, "born too late!"

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While on the subject of California cable "railways", mention must be made of the historic "Angel's Flight" in Los Angeles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_Flight (interesting historic and modern-era photos here!)

In service for many decades, by the late 60s, it was closed (due to the area it served being rebuilt) and, like a giant toy train set, was stored away in a warehouse, and, many years later, brought out and rebuilt at a new location, not far from the original.

This historic little "railway" should not be forgotten!

"NYO"

["OLIVET"]

[Cyberider]

Another good one, NYO.

Seems like the new "revived" Angel's Flight had way more problems than the original 1901 version and was OOS a lot of the time. Apparently, it's running again. However, the scenery is completely changed from what it was. A neighborhood of Victorian homes leveled in the late 1960's and now just a bunch of modern skyscrapers. Bunker Hill was a fascinating plece in it's day. When I lived in LA in 1972-3, I wondered what that desolate looking hill was about. I found out shortly later.