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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 23614 Location: NEW JOISEY
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
THIS one's for you (Avenue "X", 1968); this is the FIRST time I ever saw this one!
Note also the lone (gutted) Fishbowl and the line of old BRT line poles.
Any further info on the "Shermans"?
Indeed, it looks like "Avenue X" was more than likely the next-to-the-last stop for these veterans........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151333
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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MaBSTOA 15
Age: 70 Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I beg to differ. The gutted fishbowl looks more like an ACF-Brill IC-41 model. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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MaBSTOA 15 wrote: | I beg to differ. The gutted fishbowl looks more like an ACF-Brill IC-41 model. |
I was thinking the FRONT of that bus was actually the REAR; that is why, at a quick glance, I thought it was a Fishbowl with a four-piece rear window........now I can see it was an IC-41 (thanks for the clarification)
Mystery......how did an INTERCITY coach end up in the yard with all the retired Old Looks, along the elevated BMT tracks?
I'm guessing that the Old Looks were NYCTA.......
Thanks again for your input....
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2716 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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The "Shermans" look like they may be the 5101's ordered in 1948 by the "Bee O'Tee." The area around the rear passenger exit looks a bit different from the 40-footers from 1953 to '59. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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W.B;
Appreciate the info, as always .
It would seem that this yard at Avenue "X" was a repository for retired "Tee-Yay" buses, as was the narrow area between the BMT El ramps at Fresh Pond Road, going by the photos we have seen...........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Getting back to lighting in NYC transit facilities.......
We know that the IND's Euclid Avenue station was the first to be illuminated by florescent lighting (1948)
The first "buses" to have florescent lighting were the postwar Brooklyn trolleybuses.
The first postwar subway cars lit by foresecent lights were the R-10s/R-12s in 1948.
Question:
When did florescent lighting begin to be installed in bus garages?
Did the "Bee-oh-Tee" ever install such lighting in their garages, or was it the "Tee-Yay" that initiated the installation of florescent lighting in the garages/depots?
Curious......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Flatbush depot, 1955.
Here we have two formidable "Pattons" awaiting their next runs; note the florescent lighting...........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156952
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ulmer Park Depot, 1955; in this view, we see a trio of postwar "Oddballs" patiently awaiting the next call to duty..........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156954
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2716 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
Getting back to lighting in NYC transit facilities.......
We know that the IND's Euclid Avenue station was the first to be illuminated by florescent lighting (1948)
The first "buses" to have florescent lighting were the postwar Brooklyn trolleybuses.
The first postwar subway cars lit by foresecent lights were the R-10s/R-12s in 1948.
Question:
When did florescent lighting begin to be installed in bus garages?
Did the "Bee-oh-Tee" ever install such lighting in their garages, or was it the "Tee-Yay" that initiated the installation of florescent lighting in the garages/depots?
Curious......
"NYO"
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The use of fluorescent lighting in bus depots certainly seemed to accelerate after the "Tee-Yay" came into being in 1953, for sure.
It also begs the question as to the "private" depots / garages and what type of lighting they used. I speak, of course, of FACCo, NYCO, Surface, Avenue B, and the Queens bus companies (Jamaica Buses, Queens Transit, Steinway Transit, Triboro Coach, Green Bus Lines) in the zones they had what Benny Hill used to call "jurisprudence" over. |
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frankie
Age: 77 Joined: 01 Feb 2011 Posts: 748 Location: St. Peters, Mo.
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure this is one of the New York City Transit Authority Mack C-50's that I've rode as a kid back in the '50's. I lived a few doors up from Wilson Ave. Love the stiff ride and the rattling windows to the point that you would think they would pop out of their frames. Glenwood Road was one of three eastbound terminus on Wilson along with Hageman and E. 108th St. Bridge Plaza was the west terminus. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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frankie wrote: | I'm sure this is one of the New York City Transit Authority Mack C-50's that I've rode as a kid back in the '50's. I lived a few doors up from Wilson Ave. Love the stiff ride and the rattling windows to the point that you would think they would pop out of their frames. Glenwood Road was one of three eastbound terminus on Wilson along with Hageman and E. 108th St. Bridge Plaza was the west terminus. |
frankie:
MACKS were indeed QUITE commonplace (along with Old Looks and WHITES) in my area in Hudson County, NJ, back in the 60s; MACKS indeed were TOUGH customers to begin with, and certainly SOUNDED tough as well.
The very last in my neighborhood vanished around 1967; I can STILL to this day, hear their distinctive "swaggering tough guy" sounds.....they were awesome buses, for sure, and I STILL miss 'em today.....
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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frankie:
There is a large one-page photo (1949) in "NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT BUSES BUS & TROLLEY COACH FLEET" (Greller) showing the interior of the old 39th Street depot in Brooklyn; here we see a number of 4300-series Old Looks in one of the bays, which is lit by incandescent lighting.
I would certainly agree with you, that once the NYCTA took over, that the instillation of florescent lights at garages/depots accelerated pretty rapidly (also, the subway car repair shops and barns)
Too, like yourself, I am curious as to the installation of florescent lighting in the depots that once were operated by the private outfits.....did they keep pace with the NYCTA, or lag behind a bit?
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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In this 1978 photo, we see two ex-B&QT streetcars undergoing restoration at the CIY shops.
Note the overhead lighting (mercury vapor?).............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7690
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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ENY garage, 1980.
Here we see "bullet" Fishbowl #6347 in the midst of a well-deserve rest from daily chores..............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154803
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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