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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:11 am Post subject: |
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(SEE EARLIER POSTS)---------It was interesting that-while the slips of the 39th Street Ferry in Brooklyn was equipped for upper deck loading----the 39th Street at St George slips were not; when the new slips were built for the 69th Street Ferry-prior to 1951-none of the slips at St George or Brooklyn featured upper deck loading (the "ELECTRIC FERRY"-type boats-of-course-were not designed for upper deck passenger loading)---------"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:15 am Post subject: |
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---------I know that an "R" route (Staten Island) bus connected with (until circa-1962) the open-deck ferries operated by "SUNRISE FERRIES" that went to Bayonne (Bergen Point)----"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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It would be interesting to learn of the total # of bus routes that began/ended their runs at St George (when the new facility opened in 1951)-and what are the # of bus routes using the facility today)-------------"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Any info on what bus routes began running to South Ferry after NY Railways streetcar operations ended and bus operations began? Appreciate any info------"NYO" |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:26 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Any info on what bus routes began running to South Ferry after NY Railways streetcar operations ended and bus operations began? Appreciate any info------"NYO" |
NYCO's #6 Broadway line, for one. Also what was then East Side Omnibus' M-13 First Avenue route. The latter since 1933.
For a very brief period (1940-42), following the ending of the Sixth and Ninth Avenue els, there were two other bus routes that went to South Ferry: the #5 Sixth Avenue, and #11 Ninth and Amsterdam Avenues. Both were cut back to their former respective southern termini in the wake of World War II restrictions on bus travel. Not until the #1 Park Avenue South/Madison Avenue line was extended from City Hall to South Ferry in 1964 would there be more than just the #6 and what, by then, was the "Tee-Yay's" M-15 First and Second Avenues line. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:06 am Post subject: |
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WB: Thanks for this info----this is exactly what I needed to know; interesting to recall that the only subway station to connect directly to the Whitehall Street ferry was the "Eye-Are-Tee's" (now OOS) South Ferry Loop (recall also that the rebuilt facility [1956] offered enclosed connections to the subway)----when the El lines were still in operation-passengers could enter the upper ferry concourse to board the boats-without the need of stairways (recall-also-the old Bowling Green shuttle-which ran until 1977)----the "Eye-Are-Tee" had the distinction of being the only subway to directly connect to the Staten Island boats (I still recall-long long ago-----when the Lex trains also ran to South Ferry)----------"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:11 am Post subject: |
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The Whitehall Street subway station-of course (unlike the "Eye-Are-Tee") did not offer a direct connection to the ferry itself; and the nearest "Eye-End-Dee" station was where you now board the "E" at the WTC----------"NYO" |
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Circle Line Pier (1981): Here we see a stalwart "Bronx Bomber Bailout" from DC awaiting pull-out time---------
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155772
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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If only a 'Dangerfield' 5000-5100 or 5600-5700 series (in any color scheme) were parked there waiting to take passengers going east . . . but then it had more a "blue collar" vibe compared to the more "elegant" Fishbowls of any type . . . |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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WB: Agreed-the humble "Dangerfield" was indeed more of a "blue collar worker" than a "tony" Fishbowl; as I've said the past-the "Dangerfield" indeed had a tougher-more "no nonsense" look to them-compared to the sleeker Fishbowls.....IMHO-the "Dangerfields" were indeed the "Pattons" of their era----these hard-working buses indeed had a more "blue collar" look to them than did the Fishbowls (perhaps because there were so many Fishbowl suburbans-carrying well-dressed suburbanites out to the "posh" suburbs)........"NYO"
Just for fun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Dangerfield |
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