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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Another interesting historical page on "The Met"
Note, also, the photo of the experimental electric MU train that ran in 1900; there are a number of rare photos, advertisements, and maps on this page as well......
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Today, London's sub-surface Underground lines are served by the modern "S7" and "S8" stock; this type of equipment would be more along the lines of the rolling stock used on the former BMT/IND routes here in New York.
As you can see, this stock is much larger and roomier than the rolling stock used on the deep-level Tube lines.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_S7_and_S8_Stock |
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Though it is difficult to believe that Pullman services were once even remotely connected with London's Underground, electric* Pullman service was offered on the "Met" from 1910 to 1939........
https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-88235
*(Note the center-of-track contact rail, used instead of the usual third rail; this practice was commonplace on the Underground, as well as in Great Britain) |
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:13 am Post subject: |
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London "straphangers".....
From about 1900 onwards, leather straps for standees became commonplace on Underground stock; by the 1920's, metal/leather straps came into use.
The 1938 Stock introduced ceiling-mounted, spring-type grips, that were dubbed "gear level knob on a chain insert".
These "grips" were used on all new new Underground stock through 1983.
Just as straps are no longer used on NY subways, the time-honored "grips", once so commonplace in London, have likewise vanished......
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:24 am Post subject: |
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This 2003 photo, taken just beyond the Metropolitan Line's platforms at Rayners Lane, gives one an excellent comparison between a sub-surface train and a deep-level Tube train.
The Tube train looks almost toylike in comparison.
Also, note the old-style British conductor rails.....
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?23597
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Here's another interesting "comparison" view, taken at Amersham station in 2013.
On the left, we see an older model "sub-surface" train standing alongside a new train of "Overground" stock, whose design hints at "deep-level" Tube equipment.......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140226
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:52 am Post subject: |
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A magnificent machine indeed is restored "METROPOLITAN" electric locomotive #12, "SARAH SIDDONS", here seen at Aversham on an special excursion run, back in 2002.
Back in the 1920's and 1930's, the famed British toy train-maker HORNBY made this handsome electric locomotive in tinplate, for both three-rail electric and mechanical operation.
Needless to say, these once-commonplace toys are rare collectors's items today.....
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24266
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This photo shows a beautifully-restored train of the 1938 Tube stock on a 2013 fantrip
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140227
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These handsome trains were indeed "London's Redbirds"; the last were not retired until the early 1980's.
Note the unusual arrangement of the marker lights beneath the destination sign; markers such as this became commonplace during the 1920's, the 1959 Stock marked the first time that "modern" tube stock had dispensed with end marker lights.
Though marker lights on the older equipment continued to be used for some time afterwards, the closure of most signal boxes (towers) led to the disuse of markers on the Tube, when centralised control/command center saw the closing of all signal boxes (except for the box at Park Lane, used for shunting moves) by 1976...... |
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