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JimmiB
Age: 82 Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 516 Location: Lebanon, PA
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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That's a good looking bus. Now if only they wouldn't have had the habit of painting the bumpers! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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JimmiB wrote: | That's a good looking bus. Now if only they wouldn't have had the habit of painting the bumpers! |
JimmiB:
Agreed all the way!
For the life of me, I could never understand just WHY they did!
I STILL remember how those chrome bumpers glittered when a bus was just out of the washers, still dripping!
Still, as you said, it was a GOOD-LOOKING bus, indeed!
Those big TDM's truly were in a class unto themselves!
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B53RICH
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 254
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Mr L.,
I don't think anyone yet answered your question in reference to the driver window bars. I believe those bars were to prevent the unauthorized from reaching inside to switch open the doors.
Later buses, such as NYCTA 4444, a 1971 GM T6H5305A was delivered with modified driver windows as seen in the following photo:
BTW, the 5309's had full size opening driver windows and no bars. I'm not familiar where the door controls were but I wonder if the door control was moved away from the window.
(Photograph taken by Philip Hom; collection of Joe Testagrose. posted on BusTalk Galleries. Route Q44 at 39th Avenue & Main Street in April, 1971).
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JimmiB
Age: 82 Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 516 Location: Lebanon, PA
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Rich, the ones I used to drive had the full opening driver's window and the door control was right inside the window. Yes, the passengers figured it out. I had several times when I'd go grab a cup of coffee during a layover and come back to find people on the bus. |
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Mr. Linsky BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 5071 Location: BRENTWOOD, CA. - WOODMERE, N.Y.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I have never seen the city New Look driver's window reconfigured in that manner before - very interesting.
Actually, it puts the availability almost precisely at the same height as that of GM's Old Looks.
Funny how a simple solution can solve a major problem!
Thanks for the photos.
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HwyHaulier
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 932 Location: Harford County, MD
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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JimmiB wrote: | That's a good looking bus. Now if only they wouldn't have had the habit of painting the bumpers! |
JimmiB -
PSNJ M787 a TDM-5108 delivered in 1958. By time of instant photo, the Coach a bit long in the tooth...
http://www.davemackey.com/psct/roster/1947-1959.html
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roymanning2000
Age: 77 Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 198
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:25 am Post subject: |
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When TNJ started selling off the a/c-equipped TDM5108's, some of them ended up in the midwest. Deluxe Motor Stages, out of the Detroit area, had one with the factory air set-up. I saw it several times on short distance charters in Michigan and Ohio.
Another company, Greenlawn Transit Line, from Columbus, OH, had a 5108 from the Public Service/TNJ N-series, also with factory air. It had been fitted with a restroom and was seen frequently on baseball charters in Cincinnati in the mid-seventies. It often appeared there in company with Greenlawn's PD3751 Silversides. They made an interesting couple.
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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roymanning2000 wrote: | When TNJ started selling off the a/c-equipped TDM5108's, some of them ended up in the midwest. Deluxe Motor Stages, out of the Detroit area, had one with the factory air set-up. I saw it several times on short distance charters in Michigan and Ohio.
Another company, Greenlawn Transit Line, from Columbus, OH, had a 5108 from the Public Service/TNJ N-series, also with factory air. It had been fitted with a restroom and was seen frequently on baseball charters in Cincinnati in the mid-seventies. It often appeared there in company with Greenlawn's PD3751 Silversides. They made an interesting couple.
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Hey, Roy:
MANY THANKS for sharing this info.......I had NO inkling of this, whatsoever!
The Midwest was sure a long, long way from the NJ Turnpike!
Sure would have loved to have seen some pics!
Thanks again.....
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HwyHaulier
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 932 Location: Harford County, MD
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Roy - NYO -
So, previously owned TDM-5108 with an "aftermarket" Rest Room added! Compare, when P S N J had the Coaches on
"long" charters (and it had plenty of the work!). Evidently, the line would schedule en route "Rest Stops" as needed.
On NJ - Washington DC Charters, my conjecture is it relied on Clement's Rest (near New Castle, DE), among others...
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