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SCENICRUISER opposite Penn Station, 1955
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traildriver




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Speaking of "SILVERSIDES" in New York, check out this classic "Noo Yawk" street scene from the 1959 movie, "THE BEST OF EVERYTHING".

Talk about a "lost New York"!

When you click on the other photo on this page, you can just make out an NYCTA Old Look in the background.

Yes, sir.....those sure were the good ol' days! Very Happy

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_140152-GM-PD-4151-1948.html


Great capture! Two Silversides with a 4103 between 'em. Looks like they're heading for the Queensboro bridge enroute to the Long Island City garage.
What a PITA that trip was for tired drivers coming in off the road...IIRC, they used to get around 75 cents for taking the bus to that garage as late as the replacement by the new garage on 11th avenue (now the MTA garage).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Yep, that indeed is truly a classic scene, one of those nostalgic vignettes we all once took so much for granted!

That type of equipment made it so very easy for so many of us to get into buses at a VERY early age!

Though this might be a bit off-topic, do you happen to recall (after GREYHOUND moved into the PABT) this HUGE "model" Scenicruiser, that was used, if I recall correctly, a timetable rack?

From what I can remember, this realistic-looking "bus" was about five or so feet long, and the roof area was hollowed out, allowing racks/slots for the TT's.

I was just a kid back then, but I still remember being really impressed with this!

Sure would be nice to hear that, somehow, it was saved, and still exists today......

BTW:

From what I can recall of that movie, "THE BEST OF EVERYTHING", those buses were supposed to be operating on a company charter, taking the employees out to Long Island for a big company outing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhhhh, on such a topic, we're ALL really showing our age, now....... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not recall that as you described, but Greyhound produced many large plaster models that were distributed to commission agences around the country. They depicted various different models of buses in Greyhounds history. These were big, maybe 4 feet long? And HEAVY!

As for age...well let's just say I've been in the business since 1968. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I do not recall that as you described, but Greyhound produced many large plaster models that were distributed to commission agences around the country. They depicted various different models of buses in Greyhounds history. These were big, maybe 4 feet long? And HEAVY!

As for age...well let's just say I've been in the business since 1968. Wink


Well....."I've been in the business" since 1957.....heck, they were STILL building Old Looks and 4104's back then!! Shocked Rolling Eyes

When I was growing up in Union City (NJ), there was a TRAILWAYS storefront depot/ticket office on 32nd St., just a few minutes out of the Lincoln Tunnel.

I remember they had tin lithographed toy TRAILWAYS buses in the window for display only.....one was of the articulated "SUPER EAGLE"....man, did I want that bus!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Guess I'll never have that rare piece in my collection.....saw one on eBay last year....the price was in line with what you once spent on a good used car, back in the old days.....(!!) Shocked Shocked

Now.....I'm AGAIN thinking of that huge SCENICRUISER timetable/brochure holder at the PABT, so long ago......IF such a rear treasure still survived today, rest assured that only a collector with a "Trumpster" bank account could possibly afford it...... Sad

Oh, well....I can STILL dream........ Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the space in my apartment for collecting items of that size.
I mainly collect timetables, guides, brochures, cap badges, builder's plates, operator's manuals, promo pens, etc. Small stuff.
If I had the place to park one, I would love to acquire an old bus.
They're actually priced within reason....just nowhere to keep one.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I don't have the space in my apartment for collecting items of that size.
I mainly collect timetables, guides, brochures, cap badges, builder's plates, operator's manuals, promo pens, etc. Small stuff.
If I had the place to park one, I would love to acquire an old bus.
They're actually priced within reason....just nowhere to keep one.


traildriver:

My shelves are LOADED with vintage toy buses (mostly tin, but also, plastic, diecast, etc.....NOT including toy and model STREETCARS and TRAINS!!).....PLUS old subway car and station signs, strap handles, badges, you name it!

My bedroom (just big enough for a single bed!) more resembles a VERY well-stocked transit museum/hobby shop......but, hey, I AIN'T complaining in the least!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall there was a bus fan I believe was/is named Fred Rayman, from Oklahoma who had the whole dash, wheel and driver's compartment from a Scenicruiser in his home. He had a greyhound dog weather vane on his rooftop. He eventually acquired a real Scenicruiser. Now that's a collector!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I recall there was a bus fan I believe was/is named Fred Rayman, from Oklahoma who had the whole dash, wheel and driver's compartment from a Scenicruiser in his home. He had a greyhound dog weather vane on his rooftop. He eventually acquired a real Scenicruiser. Now that's a collector!


I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

That, indeed, is a TRUE collector!!!!!!

It's like I always say.....if you're gonna do it right....go FIRST CLASS......IF you can AFFORD it!!! Shocked Very Happy

Yep, that fellow sure knows how to live right..... Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, Mr, Jim Lehrer is indeed in a class unto himself, bus-memorabilia wise......WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

See for yourself!! Very Happy Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKaXPpP22oI
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another video worth watching......

http://wn.com/Greyhound_Bus_Museum
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Jim Lehrer's father drove for either Trailways or Greyhound and worked as a ticket agent at a Trailway's office in Texas.

Interestingly, when we first started Bus Talk III in 2007, I thought it would be a great idea to invite Jim Lehrer to become a member because of what influence he had and could exert in matters important to our cause but, to my chagrin, emails that I sent to his office at PBS were never answered.

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When my wife was alive I was limited as to the accumulation of any bus memorabilia to either my den, workshop or garage and, in deference to her memory and wishes, that will never change.

I can understand her point; what would a mid 19th. Century English Regency Sideboard look like with a fare box sitting next to it? (not too swift!).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. "L"

So very sorry your wife is no longer with us; I'm sure she must have been a fine lady, indeed!

Yes, not only did Jim Lehrer's dad work at one time for TRAILWAYS, his family also owned a small intercity bus company in Kansas (I believe they had only two buses, very early Flxible "CLIPPERS"); the company went under when he was about 12.

Later on, Mr. Lehrer himself worked as an attendent/announcer at a TRAILWAYS depot.

Years ago, I remember reading in his book "A BUS OF MY OWN", where he bought a 1946 "CLIPPER" of his own....lucky guy!!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the links to those video's. Looks like it's gonna be another late night!

I have in my collection two of Mr. Lehrer's books--"We Were Dreamers", which told the incredible tale of hardship and hard luck the Lehrer family had in their struggle to make a go of running a small busline. The other is "The White Widow", a novel of a driver falling down after falling for one of his passengers.
Both are excellent reads, if you can find a copy online.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Anytime! Very Happy

The one Jim Lehrer book I have is "A BUS OF MY OWN" (man, what a title!), which I've misplaced (heaven knows where!) and will probably end up getting another copy off of eBay.

It is a book I will truly recommend to you; there is a lot about his parents' bus company, and QUITE a bit on his tracking down old bus depot signs.....he even managed to get a hold of a HUGE electric CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS sign, that was atop an old depot that was being demolished! Shocked

Also, a VERY good chapter on how he purchased his 1946 Flxible "Clipper"!

Mr. Lehrer is indeed my hero! Very Happy

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