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On this day in 1964, we beheld the glorious future.......
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An interesting (and colorful!) view at Corona Yard, 1964 (an unidentified "State" car can be glimpsed on the far left; and check out that awesome assortment of vintage autos; man, how well I recall such autos being seen on the streets every day, when I was growing up!) Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?38838

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we have #9440 ("STATE OF RHODE ISLAND") at the Corona Yard, in 1964...............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?19894

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

As always, appreciate the additional information.

Speaking of cloth/mylar roller curtains, which buses were the first to make the transition from cloth curtains to mylar?

Did mylar come into use with the last of the "Shermans"?

Or, was mylar introduced with the Fishbowls?

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Both the "Fishbowls" and mylar roll signs made their debut in 1959. FACL was ahead of the curve when they ordered their "Jetson" Fishbowls (and those, later in 1960, for ST), as their buses initially had mylar roll signs made by the company that pioneered in that way, Transign. (Of course, it was a different story after all but the A/C's were all concentrated at Kingsbridge depot.)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
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An interesting (and colorful!) view at Corona Yard, 1964 (an unidentified "State" car can be glimpsed on the far left; and check out that awesome assortment of vintage autos; man, how well I recall such autos being seen on the streets every day, when I was growing up!) Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?38838

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Oh, that state car was Kansas.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks for the "heads up"! Wink

If Your's Truly is correct, there were (oddly enough) no "State" cars for either "Noo Yawk" or "Noo Joisey"? Rolling Eyes

Seems strange, specially since the Fair was located in QUEENS, which also, BTW, is located in the State of "Noo Yawk"(!!) Shocked

There had to be a little story to this.......

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WF interior paint..........

I have also seen a few pictures showing "R-14"/"Arnine" interiors repainted in in blue/orange for the '64 Fair.

I wonder now how many cars received this eye-catching interior paint?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1939/1940 FairWe know, of course, that the "Bee-Em-Tee" rebuilt a number of old elevated gate cars into more modern units classified as the "Q"-types, and were painted in the Fair's stylish blue and orange scheme.

Some of the venerable "Standards" (aka "Brooklyn Battleships") were temporarily equipped with (illuminated) metal signs which read:

"WORLD'S FAIR TRAIN CONNECTION"..................

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?132267

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Eye-En-Dee" was the only one of the New York subway systems to build an entirely new line to serve the 1939/1940...............

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/IND_1939_Worlds_Fair_Line

(photos included)

Just imagine had this line not been torn up after the Fair closed in 1940, and later became part of a postwar IND expansion, further into Queens.......

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are two rare views of IND trains running on the temporary World's Fair line:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2355

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?71098

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

It is not at all that hard to imagine modern IND trains running in a median strip of the Van Wyck Expressway today, a type of operation commonplace in "Shik-aga" and San Francisco (BART).........

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, the "Eye-Are-Tee" was the only "Noo Yawk" subway division to purchase NEW cars for the 1939/1940 Fair.

Though more "modern" than the older rolling stock, the overall design was indeed far from "futuristic", in keeping up with the modern, flashy tone of the Fair.

They WERE, however, the FIRST Interborough cars to dispense with both vestibules and railroad roofs, with the exception of the ACF-built deck roof "Hi-Vs"; they were also the first IRT cars to have end roller curtain signs.

Thankfully, one example of this "oddball" type remains with us today.

In my collection, I have a number plate from #5698....... Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7170

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?125661

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?133731

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy these wonderfully nostalgic subway photos from the '64 Fair (how well I recall these wonderful, long-ago scenes!) Wink

https://www.worldsfairphotos.com/nywf64/subway.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, also, to remember that the "Eye-En-Dee" (unlike the "Eye-Are-Tee" and the "Bee-Em-Tee") was the only subway division to not either purchase new equipment for the 1839 Fair, or to rebuild older equipment.

Given the futuristic nature of the Fair, one can easily picture the BMT ordering several sets of "Bluebirds" (a few years prior to the actual delivery of the units they did purchase) for direct service to the Fair.

Indeed, such sleek, "advanced design" trains would have been indeed more "in sync" than refurbished El cars..........

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A comparison..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6815

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?128002

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a truly nostalgic scene at the Willets Point (World's Fair) station in 1964..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4308

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Here we have a shiny new "Bluebird" (#9676) front and center (note, also, the car's "INDENTRA" hoop, as well as the vintage incandescent platform lights)

Hard to believe that sixty years has passed since this timeless phot was taken............

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This rare photo dates to late 1963, as the new "Bluebirds" were being delivered, several months prior to the Fair's opening.

Talk about a "mixed consist"......... Very Happy

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157990

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