BusTalk

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Right on the mark.

For most of their "Black Car" fleet, the old "Aitch & Em" relied heavily on ACF (other cars were built by PRESSED STEEL)

ACF trolleybuses were built in the ACF plant at Philadelphia; the earliest were similar to the prewar vehicles, but carried the BRILL nameplate.

The "See-Tee-Yay" once rostered 120 ACF-BRILL trolleybuses ("T-44"); trolleybus operation ended in the early 1970's.

A number of Canadian operators favored "TC-44" CCF-BRILL trolleybuses.

Though postwar ACF-BRILL suburbans (C-44's) were commonplace here in "Joisey" through a good chunk of the 1960's, transit models were not to be found, despite the diverse fleets that operated in the Hudson County area, in my much younger days........

"NYO"

["17 NORTH-CLARK"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

I also wonder if the "Em-Tee-Yay", back in the 70's, ever showed even the slightest interest in the "AM GENERAL", examples of which operated in Queens?

By the 70's, GM was getting near to the end of domestic bus production, and FLXIBLE would also be soon relegated to history.

One also cannot help but wonder to picture the "Em-Tee-Yay"/"stoa") purchasing new "Dangerfields" instead of the "Gee-Em" T6H-5309A's, for the replacement of the "Toid Aven-uh" El up in "da Bronx"............

"NYO"

["4841"]

[traildriver]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Interesting,in-depth "reporting", as usual.

Yep, I do think that the "AM GENERAL" was a bit too "exotic" for the "Em-Tee-Yay"; recall, this was a number years before VOLVO and NEOPLAN equipment began to be seen in this country, so, the "Em-Tee-Yay" really had little choice when it came to buying new buses.

Too,so ironic that the "Bombers" literally BOMBED on the streets of "Noo Yawk", unlike their rugged "Dangerfield" counterparts.

Funny, though, even when you look at an RTS (even the early models built by "Gee-Em") you really don't think "Gee-Em" as you automatically did with a Fishbowl or a "Sherman".

Here again, as we have often discussed here, it is always interesting to imagine the "Em-Tee-Yay"purchasing the RTS right from the get-go, instead of investing in the ill-fated "Bombers".

Of course, by the time that the first "Bombers" were (literally) "hitting the streets", the hard-working "Dangerfields" were no longer in production.

Ironic, too, that, even though the "Em-Tee-Yay" first shunned the RTS, they ended up purchasing many hundreds, thus having them become the backbone of the fleet, just as the Fishbowls and "Shermans" were before them............

"NYO"

["M"]