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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:34 pm Post subject: Underground railways of a different sort.......... |
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As my great-uncles on my mother's side were all anthracite coal miners near Wilkes-Barre (1920s-1940s), I've long been greatly interested, indeed, quite fascinated, by the rich and intriguing history of coal mining in Eastern Pennsylvania.
Of course, the little railways that once shuttled coal-laden cars to and from the surface through the complex network of dimly-lit mine tunnels, have likewise, greatly intrigued me for many years.
Some were electric ("mules") and operated off of overhead wires (looking much like flatbed work motor streetcars!) while others operated by compressed air.
I've heard many interesting stories about my mother's family working in the mines, and, to say I am still quite impressed (and, also, in awe) of these oft-forgotten, long-toiling men is indeed an understatement
This page is indeed most fascinating (UNBELIEVABLE that mine "railways" actually date back many centuries!)
Much historical and technical info here, as well as a number of fascinating photos...........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_railway
["BLUE COAL"]
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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EXCELLENT historical page (with several rare photos!) of the little trolley pole-equipped "mules" that once growled, sparked, and hummed through the depths of Eastern Pennsylvania's complex network of anthracite coal mines.
Storage battery locos are also represented here.....
https://undergroundminers.com/anthracite-mine-transportation-methods/
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Though this page deals with historic mining locomotives from Kentucky, you will see several types that once could be found in the anthracite mines of Pennsylvania........
www.coaleducation.org/coalhistory/tech2/e40.htm
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Here is another interesting historical page; Plymouth is a town near where my mother was born in 1917.
She also had an aunt and uncle that resided there for many years.
On a sidenote, the streetcars of WILKES-BARRE Rys served Plymouth until 1950.
Not surprisingly, many of the miners who lived in this area rode the streetcars to and from their jobs, as did my great uncles.
My maternal great-grandfather, until his passing in 1934, was the superintedent of the massive Glen Alden Colliery..........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_Plymouth,_Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Also...........
WILKES-BARRE RAILWAYS was, not surprisingly, no stranger to having problems with sinkholes and cave-ins beneath their tracks on long stretches of private ROW over the decades, in areas where mine shafts and tunnels burrowed beneath the tracks.
Dump cars were used to fill in and re-enforce these areas so that streetcar service could safely resume..........
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Further...............
In the mines, the locomotives used (whether electric or compressed air) were referred to as "lokies".
The original electric "lokies" had the trolley poles (and overhead wires) mounted directly over the center of the track (the same as in streetcar operations)
Later electric "lokies" had the trolley poles and wires offset, for the increased safety of the "motormen" operating them.
Interestingly, the elevators were referred to as "cages".
All mine tunnels had, at key locations, whitewashed structures that were used as foreman's offices (a telephone, electric lights, etc); also, there were similar structures that which fitted out as emergency hospitals, with all the medical equipment needed (often including an X-ray machine) to treat men who were injured on the job.
Also, in certain mines, a block signal system was used for the safe movement of trains within the tunnels themselves.
Indeed, it was a vast underground civilization, complex and far-reaching, all to itself..............
"NYO"
['BREAKER No. 5"]
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Mine railway interlockings........
These could get quite complex, depending on what areas they were located in, especially where several tunnels branched off from the main track at a key location.
There were three-way switches, slip switches, and crossovers.
By approaching the switch(s) with either power on or power off (coasting) the "motorman" manning an electric "lokie" could operate the overhead switch, aligning it for the route he was to take, again, a scaled-down version of what was commonplace on streetcar and trolleybus systems.............
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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NYO:
That compressed air locomotive is interesting. Another new one for me!  |
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider:
You would be surprised at how many never heard of such "lokies"; even the little electrics would seem a foreign concept to them!
Many years ago, my late uncle gave me an old, old book one Christmas, ""LIGHT LOCOMOTIVES" (1920), by the PORTER locomotive works.
This wonderful book is chock-pull of photos, speqs, the whole nine yards; indeed, a true treasure trove of info and illustrations!
Illustrated are two mining "lokies", Class "B" and Class "C".
The Class "B" is tiny 0-4-0, while the class "C" is an 0-6-0.
As these little engines were built to run in the tight confines of mine tunnels, they are almost flat in contours (it would seem having a SHORT engineer in the cab would just fit the bill!)
Over 20 different sizes of both types were available in 1920; also, they could be built for both wide and narrow gauge.
Hard-working little "lokies", for certain!
"NYO"
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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in this photo, note (look closely) the highly-unusual overhead side current collector contacting the trolley wires to the right of the "lokie"............
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mention MUST be made about the now long-abandoned, complex Chicago Tunnel Railway; a FASCINATING history, to be sure!
Note that the "lokies" were virtual clones of those used in many mining operations (a number of rare and interesting photos here!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company |
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