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[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

IMHO, one could hardly argue over the flexibilty and economics of diesel coaches over street railway, especially when the "conquering machines" looked as splendid as this!<G>

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[HwyHaulier]

NYO -

The retrospective? PUBLIC SERVICE knew it had a problem with the (damnable) legislation ca.1935 (the "Get Sam Insull" Act).
The power company mandated to divest of transit lines. Which begat: P S E & G and P S N J. You posted an item from a year
back, recalling the Transit history. Writer did not catch this vital change.

Newark "City Subway"? Face it, later posturing was all about saving someone's butt at the City of Newark! Indeed, de facto
risky and dangerous to even think of putting "free wheeling" vehicles in the hole. Any (silly) thoughts did not consider "human
factors" in it. Days surely would come with operators too sick, hung over, subject to sudden critical events, and so on, with the
coaches banging the support poles! One can take that disaster to the bank!

Finally. Salad Days of P S N J, M755, in Manhattan. This a most competent group of coaches. Though not restroom equipped,
good for "long" charters, ex., NJ - Washington, DC. Excellent performers...

.....................Vern.....................

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Vern.....

In case you missed this one first time around, here is a detailed page on the Cedar St. Subway, including much detail on streetcar, ASV, and diesel coach operations.

A number of historical maps and photos are also here.....

NYO

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/cedarst.html

[HwyHaulier]

NYO -

Yours, 3:21 pm. CEDAR STREET? It remains a mighty dicey way of doing things! Great to hear P S N J had a long run of just pure luck!

......................Vern......................

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

This 1972 photo shows J308 pulling out of Hoboken (note school flashers).

Though the destination box is blank, I am almost certain that this was a #17 SUMMIT run (HOB-32nd St. Union City), one of the very last routes out of Hoboken to use Old Looks.

I was very familiar with this line growing up, as it ran just up the block from our old apartment building in Union City.

We rode this line often down to Hoboken, to ride and watch the E-L trains at the terminal.

This line was abandoned sometime during the mid-70's, AFAIK.

Note the old H&M/PATH kiosks in the background, still in use today; likewise the old PS shed, which I used as part of my commute for nearly 25 years.

Also, look carefully in the left background; what appears to be a PS coach is actually a retired unit, now operating for the old Washington St. company.

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Here's an ex-PSNJ coach, still sporting its old paint, now renumbered and operating on Hoboken's long-defunct Washington St. line (1972).

Though no trace of the PS "wings" remain on the dash, you can still see where the circular PS insignia originally was on the sides.

The last of these venerable ex-PS coaches ran about 1985.

I can recall one being operated (on Washington St.) by the MARIA TRANSPORTATION COMPANY......

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Now HERE'S a classic "Joisey" scene that yours truly knows like the back of his hand!

This is "Nungesser's", at the border of Hudson County (south), and Bergen County (North).

North Bergen (Hudson) and Fairview (Bergen) meet here.

Yours truly has passed through this workaday area more times than he can count throughout the years, especially when he was still commuting into the city!

The NJT-era will be dawning soon, as ex-PS (TNJ) W731 is signed for the #166, but is obviously deadheading; had the bus been operating a revenue trip, it would have turned left (in front of the Flex New Look) and onto Bull's Ferry Road, heading west.

The ORANGE & BLACK Fishbowl is heading north for Fort Lee, and a Flex New Look is on its way to Hoboken, on the #22.

Note, too, the old line pole on the left (only removed about 12 years ago), which served both streetcars and ASV's.

Today, MCI's, Neoplan artics, NABI's, and RTS's are the types of coaches now seen here, but even these are far outnumbered by the ever-present swarms of broken-down, rattletrap "jitney" vans.

Alas, to go back in time.....

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No buses in this photo, but one that I wanted to post here....

On this bleak day in March of 1952, local folks gather to watch the departure of the final revenue subway-surface streetcar on the #29 line from the Bell St. (Montclair) carhouse; this was the very last of the connecting subway-surface car lines of the Newark City Subway.

This facility was also the very last operating carhouse on the entire PSNJ system; in its last months of streetcar operation, it also stabled shiny new TDH's.

After the streetcars made their last runs, Bell St. was used for many years as a PS bus garage; by the 1970's, it had been turned into a popular bowling alley.

Sadly, this historic structure was torn down some years ago.....

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The interior of the cavernous PS Bell St. barn at Montclair; the color schemes on the streetcars date this photo to sometime during the 1930's.

Bell St. was unique in that it was the only PS carbarn to have curved tracks within its walls.

Note that all cars are signed for the "29 BLOOMFIELD"; after 1950, this barn also serviced cars of the #21 and the #7.

The last #21's (via Orange St.) ran in early 1952, on the same day that the #29 was also converted to bus.

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Looking like a street scene straight out of classic 1930's Warner Brothers flick, is this classic view of Newark, 1937.

The streetcar approaching is on the #43 (Newark-Jersey City, via lower level of PS Terminal/Cedar St. Subway), at this time, the very last streetcar to operate on the surface in downtown Newark.

In 1938, this line would be converted to ASV operation.

Also, note the ASV turning west onto Market St., in the background.

If you look VERY closely in the forground, you will spot the poles of an ASV, which is leading the streetcar....

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Two partially restored (but no less handsome) examples of PSNJ's once-proud suburban fleet of the 1950's; the coach in the foreground is K701.

Man, they were just so dang gorgeous.....

http://www.ttmg.org/photos/tlogan/NJT_GMC_K701.jpg

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Truly a classic image of another era in mass transit.....a PS suburban Old Look in the company of a PTC MACK....yes, indeedy, those WERE the days, my friends!

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